It's really interesting reading about how these folks view LLMs. Yeah, they're transformative, but I don't know that we're going to be eating ramen in a Neo-Tokyo street bar anytime soon. So much "A.G.I" mentioned in the article.

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satvikpendem 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Well I'd hope they're transformative, they're using transformers after all. We just need to pay attention to them, that's all they need.

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0x3f 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's because they're really good at the kind of busywork the average white collar job requires. Most people are out there writing documents and making presentations. Only when you use them for actual complexity does the shortfall become clear.

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m4rtink 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I find it interesting how a lot of cyberpunk does not really include AI or does not present it in transformative way. There is a lot of mind uploading, implants, corpo fun and overall technology permeating all aspects of life, but often AI itself does not actually play a big role.

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Terr_ an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Counterexamples that come to mind are Neuromancer (AI driving the plot) and Blade Runner (AI antagonists.)

A compromise thesis might be that in cyberpunk media, AI is at never powerful or motivated to fundamentally reform the worldwide crapsack economic system. They don't abolish corporations, although they might take them over.

Of course, if there was a story about an AI taking over the world into a post-scarcity society, it probably wouldn't be filed under "cyberpunk" either...

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ehnto an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It is a pretty core part of Cyberpunk the "franchise" though, both tabletop and more recent video game.

I think as well if you look closer, many cyberpunk worlds imply AI through robots, computers with personality etc.

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gilgoomesh 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think you can look at Star Trek as a fairly grounded example of where current LLMs could go: the ship's computer is not autonomous in any way but it does accept fairly vague instructions and you can apparently vibe-code the holodeck.

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satvikpendem 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I find that more realistic then, because it appears that's the trajectory we are going on with regards to AI, as a tool not a panacea.

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Trasmatta 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Deus Ex is an outlier, AI is a core part of that plot

	▲	staticman2 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		The first Cyberpunk book, Neuromancer, has a plot which revolves around A.I recruiting human agents to forward its plans...

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red369 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm going to write a silly comment here: For a moment I thought you wrote "... LLMs. Yeah, they're transformative, but I don't know that they're going to be eating ramen in a Neo-Tokyo street bar anytime soon."

I liked that mental image a lot! (I try to maintain being uncertain whether Deckard was a replicant)