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tombert 3 hours ago

Back in 2015 I worked for a startup. I turned down a job at a more stable company because this startup had me doing Erlang and I really wanted to work with that.

The job worked fine for about six months, and then one week my paycheck (which usually was on the second and fourth Wednesday of the month) wasn't in my bank account. I go the CEO of the company and mention this and he said something like "Oh yeah, something got fucked up with payroll man, don't worry we'll give you a double paycheck next time, with interest man".

I was young enough in my career to just accept that, and so I waited two more weeks and again, no money in my checking account. I confront the CEO about this, and he says the payroll stuff is still fucked but don't worry man I got you, next paycheck will be a triple paycheck, and an extra two grand for everyone.

Two weeks later, the building's doors are locked, and none of us are able to get into the building. One of the other engineers called one of the investors and apparently the CEO "could not be found", and all of us were laid off on the spot.

This began one of the worst times in my life. I was already not the best at managing money, and because I had naively believed him about eventually getting all my backpay I hadn't been saving especially. I hadn't been conservative with my money, and I had gone a month and a half without a paycheck, and as such I was completely broke.

This led to a lot of terrible stuff happening; my landlord filed a lawsuit against me for back rent, my wife started having medical issues with her eye and we didn't have any insurance or money so we couldn't get it looked at, and I had to call a friend and beg him to loan me $400 to pay some bills and so I could get groceries. He's a very good friend, and he did help me out and I did eventually pay him back, but it was unbelievably depressing to me.

The part that sticks out to me was when I had to fly to Seattle for an interview with Amazon, and while they would happily reimburse everything for the trip, I realized that I didn't have enough money on my debit card to do the "pre-charge" thing that hotels do, and my credit card was maxed out. I was afraid that I was going to be stuck being homeless in Seattle for two days because of an interview that I knew I would not get, and I felt so bad that I let my life get this way. Fortunately in this case, I was able to call my mom once I got there, lied and said I "lost" my credit card and I was able to get her to call in a credit card to the hotel, so I wasn't homeless, but that didn't occur to me until about five minutes after I arrived at the hotel.

Eventually I was able to get my stepfather-in-law to loan us enough money to get my landlord to drop the lawsuit, and eventually I found the job at Jet.com, which was a great job that paid well and ended up being a huge stepping stone in my career and where I met a ton of ridiculously smart and cool people that I still chat with to this day.

I will never forgive that CEO for that period of my life. While it did end up working out, I still occasionally have nightmares about that time in my life, and how upset I was, and how I wouldn't wish that feeling of worthlessness on my worst enemy. In some senses I'm kind of grateful for the experience because it did really force me to grow up and learn how to take care of myself, but ultimately I still wish it hadn't happened.

This wasn't YC, but it was still a VC-funded megalomaniacal CEO, which is why this reminded me of it.

luckyyou 3 hours ago | parent [-]

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tombert 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No argument that I was extremely fortunate to have the people I was able to reach out to and get help from. My friend, my mom (though she didn't actually spend any money in this case, just called in a credit card for the hotel prebill), and my stepfather-in-law made what would have been an extremely terrible situation to just a very terrible situation.

I'm sorry you don't feel like you get the help you need, though I think just based on this comment you would benefit from talking to a therapist. This isn't a dig, I see a therapist.

yeahookbro an hour ago | parent [-]

You types are really into it (therapy) but it isn’t for me.

I have no problem bitching about my problems or even finding people (like yourself) to listen.

I just need money.

tombert an hour ago | parent [-]

Therapy is much more than just bitching about your problems, and I'm afraid that if you think that whining on Hacker News is going to do anything to help you, then you're either deluded or stupid.

I also don't know what "you types" means? My parents were super against therapy and wouldn't let me go to a therapist or psychiatrist. I sought it out when I was 26 years old.

lolforreal 32 minutes ago | parent [-]

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tombert 28 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I think what's sad is to find a long post about being ripped off by a startup and then using it extremely tangentially as an excuse to try and tell everyone to feel bad for you. "Woe is me, I would try to do something to improve my life but alas all I can muster is typing on a keyboard to a bunch of uncaring strangers on an internet forum full of software engineers."

I don't really know what I should be "aware" of; I stand by that you should consider seeing a therapist, because clearly you are dealing with some stuff that is far beyond the scope of what you're going to get on Hacker news.

I probably am mentally deprived in some way, but at least I'm self aware enough to actually try and improve my life instead of, you know, bitching about how the world is rigged against me.

Also, I find it telling and cowardly that you keep making throwaway accounts instead of owning your opinions. I can't say that I think you really stand by your convictions.

tomtard 11 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I run a business retard, and am doing as well as I can considering SF’s cost of living.

You’re an idiot at best. Say hi to your mom for me.

tombert 4 minutes ago | parent [-]

Gotta admit that I do like the name "tomtard", I might steal that.

Yes, I'm the idiot in this conversation. Clearly the pinnacle of intelligence is someone going on Hacker News and interjecting a weird thing about how no one cares about them and how the world is rigged against them.

The problem is that I'm so stupid that I didn't realize the immense genius of such a maneuver, and as such the shear magnitude and girth of your intelligence went over my tiny head. Some day I hope to have even 1% of your giant brain and maybe then I will have the intelligence to bitch to strangers about how the world hates me and that therapy is stupid, but alas I fear I am not ready for that yet.

Oh by the way, it's still cowardly to keep making throwaway accounts because you're too much of a wuss to actually own what you say.

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