>They're trying to prevent people who purchase the season pass to almost exclusively resell tickets to individual games.

Why do you need a smartphone to do this when a white list checked against ID at the door would suffice? As the other respondent says, you either generate a badge for the passholder, or have an approved list of guests that can use the season pass if the passholder chooses to offer it to others.

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KumaBear 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Generating badges has loopholes. (Trust me I’ve used them). And IDing every person can be a mission on itself. Pretty sure they will just start using biometrics in the next decade with or without your consent.

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Ucalegon 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They already do! See Madison Square Garden [0] and The Intuit Dome [1]!

[0] https://www.npr.org/2023/01/21/1150289272/facial-recognition...

[1] https://stadiumtechreport.com/feature/intuit-dome-leaning-on...

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jjulius 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>Generating badges has loopholes.

This seems to be an area where people will always find loopholes. Should this be a race-to-the-bottom in an attempt to make the most foolproof system possible, or do we at some point accept that maybe there's never going to be a perfect way to do this?

>And IDing every person can be a mission on itself.

I've worked the door at venues of various sizes, so it's not like I suggested this from ignorance. What we're talking about doesn't need to be "every person", just a specific set of ticketholders.

>Pretty sure they will just start using biometrics in the next decade with or without your consent.

I know I'm just me, speaking for me, and am a sample size of 1 that doesn't look like the general population in this regard, but there's no "with or without my consent" if I decide to opt out of going to games entirely. It'll be a cold day in hell before I give someone my biometrics just so I can watch someone try and hit a ball.

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michaelt 3 hours ago | parent [-]

For sure you can ID everyone. Nightclubs, music festivals and even airports do this sort of thing all the time.

You just need good organisation, plenty of security stations, and an atmosphere that rewards people who arrive early - checking a stadium's worth of IDs over the course of 2-3 hours rather than over the course of 20 minutes.

What you can't do is charge $20 for a glass of beer then expect people to arrive 2-3 hours before the game starts.

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raw_anon_1111 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And that will slow it down for everyone. Not to mention that HN users will then whine about the surveillance state

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jjulius 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It could slow it down for everyone, or just the season passholders. If it does, oh well - there are worse things than taking an extra 10-15 minutes to get into a stadium.

>Not to mention that HN users will then whine about the surveillance state.

Pretty sure, given the comments in this very thread, that HN collectively understands there's more surveillance happening on your phone than with another person making sure the name on your ID matches the name on your ticket, or that your badge photo matches your face.

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		And HN users are not knowledgeable. When I challenge people to tell me how much surveillance can a third party app do on iOS without your permission…crickets.

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carlosjobim 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They can buy their tickets at the door so they don't have to show an ID.