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notatoad 11 hours ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHQevuohJH8

my music tastes are pretty mainstream, and this just does absolutely nothing for me. it's exactly what i'd expect AI music to sound like - completely forgettable, with nothing interesting about it.

i'd be willing to believe that this music was legitimately charting if it had at least some redeeming qualities, but i can't imagine how this could honestly get eleven spots on the iTunes chart without gaming it in some way.

stronglikedan 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I listen to a lot of music of all different genres depending on mood, and I can honestly I don't think anyone could peg this as AI just by listening to it. It's soulless and devoid of emotion, but so are a lot of real artists. That wouldn't even be so obvious if they just added some background something, anything, like Wall of Sound style. If I played this for anyone and they said "it sounds like AI", I'd confidently tell them they are full of shit.

notatoad 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>honestly I don't think anyone could peg this as AI just by listening to it. It's soulless and devoid of emotion

i agree. as far as ai slop goes, it's pretty good. it could be made by a human who wasn't very artistic. i'm not saying it's obviously AI generated, just that it's not very good music. but that's not because i dislike popular music - i think most of the hot 100 is usually pretty good, and contains significant artistic value even if it isn't to my taste.

if somebody was claiming this was created by a human, i'd believe them but i'd have the same objection: this isn't going to hit 11 positions on the itunes music chart without gaming the chart in some way.

"ai generated music creator manipulates the itunes chart to occupy 11 positions" is a much less interesting story than "ai generated music is so popular it occupies 11 spots on the itunes charts"

defrost 7 hours ago | parent [-]

For a reasonable comparison to a minor hit of yore, where do people stand on the Flying Lizard's cover of Money (that's what I want)?

Soulless and devoid of emotion, or an inspired end run about the minor issue of a (self confessed) inability to conventionly sing.

bsder 6 hours ago | parent [-]

> where do people stand on the Flying Lizard's cover of Money (that's what I want)?

It's fine precisely because it provokes emotion that AI stuff doesn't. You may love or hate what the Flying Lizards did, but it's very memorable and you will have an opinion about it (My wife loves it; I think it's stupid--C'est la vie.)

The AI generated music just sounds like every other average artist. I'm definitely not even convinced it's AI. It could very well be somebody claiming "AI" in order to game the system or get people talking about it.

As for occupying iTunes spots, why not? Is there much difference between Max Martin and his ilk shitting out yet more generic glop or AI doing it?

defrost 5 hours ago | parent [-]

It genuinely warms my heart that the Flying LIzards did what they did .. but I also think it kind of stupid in a fun way and don't got out of my way to listen to it.

I feel much the same about a lot of the early AI music I've heard, I have a couple of channels on a lesser rank of RSS notifications but more and more there's less and less that's remarkable and it's feeling like the worst kinds of elevator music .. you know, not the Brian Eno stuff . . .

So yeah, we're sitting about like two Yorkshiremen giving a real Thomas Beecham "Shostakovich? I think I stepped in some once" vibe here. Probably deservedly.

Gigachad 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s slop for sure, but you’re right, it’s hard to label it AI slop because the model has pretty much mastered the human slop sound.

RobMurray an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

it's unmistakably AI as soon as the vocals come in. maybe your ears are full of shit?

themafia 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> If I played this for anyone and they said "it sounds like AI"

It sounds like AI.

> I'd confidently tell them they are full of shit.

Why are you getting offended on behalf of a computer? Or is there a deeper reasoning for this logic?

cindyllm 5 hours ago | parent [-]

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supliminal 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’ve heard lots of music like this over the years. It’s catchy, the lyrics are very relatable to the audience of people who like this music. It might not be your thing, but it is certainly enjoyed by many, and there are albums written around this subject. Folk/blues are made of this subject.

Is it over all flat and boring? Somewhat. You can only hear the same thing so many times before it gets tiring.

nearbuy 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'd say the same thing about two thirds of the iTunes top 100. Different people love different songs I guess.

The lyrics of the one you linked are fairly strong compared to other songs on the top 100 list.

deathanatos 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Pre-video ad served by YT was quite literally a scam.

Which says all you need to know about where all this is headed, I guess.

djmips 7 hours ago | parent [-]

This channel is not even the official channel.

suzzer99 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> completely forgettable, with nothing interesting about it

You just described 90% of young country for decades now. I keep waiting for its fans to get tired of being pandered to with formulaic lyrics, but they seem to be an endless well.

nwallin 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It feels... commercial. I feel like I have to read a EULA and hit I Agree before I can listen to that.

prodigycorp an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wow, this song is horribly mastered.

setnone 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

the comments are very suspicious and very scary

Gigachad 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A lot of them read like twitter bots with generic “wow beautiful <emojis>”

Wherever there is profit to be made on the internet, you have massive amounts of weird abuse and botting to game the system. Maybe not even literal bots, but paying a sweatshop in India to leave thousands of generic comments to boost your rankings on the algorithm.

actionfromafar 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If the comments are from humans, that's tragic and frightening.

setnone 11 hours ago | parent [-]

frightening either way, probably part of an operation that makes this AI chart so high

HDThoreaun 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The AI comment push on that video is certainly an interesting look into the future. Record labels have their work cut out for them in this brace new world.

Gigachad 3 hours ago | parent [-]

At least what I’m seeing in dance music is online sales and streaming seem kind of dead, and everything is about events, personalities, and unreleased tracks that all the big names have but you can’t get for a year after if ever.

If you go on soundcloud/spotify/etc there is infinite EDM slop that isn’t worth listening to. But if you listen to real event recordings on YouTube, they are all playing mostly the same stuff by actual artists with new/unreleased music that people get hyped to hear since you can’t find it anywhere else.

zingababba 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've been making all my own music lately with suno 5.5. It's pretty sweet, it allows me to explore concepts in a different way. This sucks though. Here's hyperpop version of https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=6097646 -> https://suno.com/song/516c7e52-a03e-490d-ba26-8d9a332eeea7

imiric 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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