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Someone1234 9 hours ago

Using Claude Code seems like a popular frontend currently, I wonder how long until Anthropic releases an update to make it a little to a lot less turn-key? They've been very clear that they aren't exactly champions of this stuff being used outside of very specific ways.

nerdix 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't think there is any incentive to do so right now because the open models aren't as good. The vast majority of businesses are going to just pay the extra cost for access to a frontier model. The model is what gives them a competitive advantage, not the harness. The harness is a lot easier to replicate than Opus.

There are benefits too. Some developers might learn to use Claude Code outside of work with cheaper models and then advocate for using Claude Code at work (where their companies will just buy access from Anthropic, Bedrock, etc). Similar to how free ESXi licenses for personal use helped infrastructure folks gain skills with that product which created a healthy supply of labor and VMware evangelists that were eager to spread the gospel. Anthropic can't just give away access to Claude models because of cost so there is use in allowing alternative ways for developers to learn how to use Claude Code and develop a workflow with it.

deskamess 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Are the Claude Code (desktop) models very different from what Bedrock has? I thought you could hook up VSCode (not Claude Desktop) to Bedrock Anthropic models. Are there features in Claude Desktop that are not in VSCode/cli?

chvid 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Is it not about the same as using OpenCode?

And is running a local model with Claude Code actually usable for any practical work compared to the hosted Anthropic models?

falcor84 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well, if they did, it would probably be shooting themselves in the foot, seeing that the Claude Code source is out there now, and people are waiting for an excuse to "clean-room" reimplement and fork it

moomin 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Right now it suits them down to the ground. You pay for the product and you don’t cost their servers anything.

phainopepla2 8 hours ago | parent [-]

You don't pay anything to use Claude Code as a front end to non-Anthropic models

quinnjh 8 hours ago | parent [-]

so no subscription is needed?

kenmacd 4 hours ago | parent [-]

not to use the cli tool. You can install it and change the settings to point to pretty much any other model.

It's an okay-enough tool, but I don't see a lot of point in using it when open sources tools like Pi and OpenCode exist (or octofriend, or forge, or droid, etc).

wyre 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think CC is popular because they are catering to the common denominator programmer and are going to continue to do that, not because CC is particularly turn-key.