| ▲ | nixon_why69 5 hours ago |
| I'm not being a hater, but we landed on the moon 55+ years ago and now we're doing a flyby with 35+ year-old engine tech. It's good that we're doing something but we should be doing better. |
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| ▲ | harrall 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| You’re not seeing better engines because there aren’t any. We are reaching the limits of physics. That’s why we are working on alternatives like refueling in space or reusable ships. The Artemis missions are testing things that we still have a lot of area to improve upon — materials (a huge one), international standards for things like docking ports, computing, radiation safety, and a lot more. |
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| ▲ | GolfPopper 17 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | <snark>Did we really need to spend $90 billion and send people past the Moon to troubleshoot Bluetooth?</snark>[1] Sharing because this seems to capture the je ne sais quoi that seems off about Artemis for me. 1. https://github.com/RICLAMER/Artemis_II_2026 NASA's Artemis II Live Views from Orion, 04 - Day 1-2 - 03-04-2026 - 1645-Transcript-EN.txt: "03/04/2026 - 18:57:27 (-3 TMZ) | 01:23:22:27 (Artemis Clock) "No joy seeing the device in the list of available devices when I attempt to re-pair it after doing the Bluetooth forget." | |
| ▲ | NetMageSCW 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Artemis II doesn’t have any docking hardware since it won’t have anything to dock with. And Artemis in general is just using the IDSS used on the ISS and by Dragon and Starliner, nothing new being discovered or tested there. | |
| ▲ | hydrogen7800 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah, RS25/SSME still have a higher specific impulse than any boost stage engine in operation, past or present. |
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| ▲ | randomNumber7 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Also the heatshield is designed in a way that is cheaper to manufacture but less safe. |
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| ▲ | nine_k 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| In 2-3 years we should expect a Starship mission to Moon, at a much more sensible scale, as in the amount of scientific gear and actual researchers delivered to the surface (and then back). |
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| ▲ | rantingdemon 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | 2 to 3 years is wildly optimistic. Of the 5 launches last year 3 were failures and it's not even close to be ready for humans yet. | | |
| ▲ | NetMageSCW 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Some people don’t understand the difference between testing and use. You can afford to test when your launches cost 1/100 of SLS launches instead of risking human lives. Artemis II was human rated with zero launches of its life support equipment, modeling failures of its heat shield, multiple power issues in its only predecessor flight in space. Starship will carry humans after hundreds of launches and landings. | | |
| ▲ | verzali 29 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I don't believe that to be true. Starship may host humans next year if it can get to a stable orbit and manage to demonstrate sufficient control for docking. It is extremely unlikely to demonstrate any environmental control before that. |
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| ▲ | juleiie 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There is literally not many things in life I hope so much for than starship success. Sounds strange perhaps but I just love space and I hope it succeeds. Funnily I absolutely despise Musk at the same time for being absolute buffoon | | |
| ▲ | pstuart 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | We're days away from the SpaceX IPO that will make Musk even richer than he is now. I don't trust him with that money. | | |
| ▲ | brightball 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Last time he got a bunch of money he used it to fund SpaceX and Tesla. Now also Neuralink. It’s hard to imagine anyone else who’s done more for the planet with his money than Musk. | | |
| ▲ | biaachmonkie 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | He is also directly responsible for the deaths of many thousands of people via the shutdown of USAID-funded programs. Get out of hear with your glazing of that Fascist Sieg-Heiling Asshole. |
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| ▲ | rdtsc 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | How do we take it away from him? | |
| ▲ | juleiie 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I trust his gargantuan insecurity Sometimes the flaws of someone make him completely predictable. Very trustworthy to repeatedly pour billions in an attempt to become someone he fantasizes to be. There are innumerable amount of assholes in history that sold things we use daily, sometimes at the expense of original inventors. It is hard to cope with the idea that greed, ambition and ruthlessness are the building blocks of everything that stands around us. Sometimes it makes me want to reject everything I know of good and human and feed these traits until they fill the hollow parts of mind with wealth, empty fame and too many lonely sunsets on a private island. |
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