I just cannot fathom comments like this. I’m preeetty sure that the vast majority of people spend half an hour a day doing nothing, in front of a screen of some type. How many people do you think there are there who don’t have thirty minutes of leisure time once per week?!

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lxgr 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There's a world of a difference between being able to carve out 30 actually uninterrupted minutes (and realistically more; most people don't have a sauna in their home, so they'd need to spend some time getting there and back) and being able to zone out and stare at a screen for 30 minutes in bed or on public transit.

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Jensson 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> and realistically more; most people don't have a sauna in their home

Most people have a sauna in their home, this is Finland.

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nextlevelwizard 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Is this actual stat? Or do you mean “have access to” instead of actually “at their home” i.e. a private sauna they can use at any time 24/7, because from my lived experience I doubt the latter.

	▲	decimalenough an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Essentially all residential buildings in Finland have saunas. Freestanding houses have private ones, apartments have communal ones but you can book a private time slot.

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Maxion 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And those that don't have usually access to one in the building that they can use.

Or if they don't have that, can just go to one of the numerous public saunas.

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Sharlin 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not having an hour of uninterrupted leisure time per day, never mind per week (most Finns don’t go to sauna every day) still sounds pretty unfathomable, except maybe in some specific circumstances like being a fresh single parent or similar. In any case, in Finland people go to sauna together with even fairly young kids (like 3+ years old), with breaks as needed of course, even most adults don’t usually spend thirty continuous minutes in a 80°C sauna.

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ptero 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Virtually everyone everywhere can find free 30 minutes. And turn their devices off. Those who think they cannot would do well getting to a state where they can do this, at least 6, preferably 7 days a week.

Skipping screen time between waking up and getting up will might solve this problem for a significant fraction of the first world population. My 2c.

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neves 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And it is so hot that you can't use your phone full of addicting apps that ruin your sanity.

	▲	ascii0eks84 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		You're describing a tool. It can destroy your sanity yes, but it also enables sanity if that makes sense.

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Tade0 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Fresh parents without relatives to help out.

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Mashimo 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If it's winter, put the baby in the pram outside, while you do a quick sauna session?

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Maxion 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We still managed fine. All young kids sleep quite a lot. Newborns a crapton. Older kids who don't are old enough to sauna too.

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prepend 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Check out the screen time log for fresh parents.

I remember the first few months being so crazy. Feedings every two hours, and each feeding took an hour.

But still time for naps, short walks, etc. part of the survival was to work in little microbreaks when the baby was sleeping.

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skrebbel 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Huge difference between constantly being in passive alert mode waiting for the kid to wake up and cry their heart out, and proper uninterrupted “I know have x minutes for myself, no matter what” time.

	▲	KellyCriterion 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> being in passive alert mode AH, MANY THANKS! That was the wording I was actually looking for when our twins arrived - I couldnt even sit down to read a printed newspaper article with 2 pages....

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sersi 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I've never read as much on my kindle as when my son was born. I didn't want to use my phone so any micro break was spent reading. Much harder to do now that my son is 4 years old, I'm less sleep deprived but there's less opportunities for micro breaks when I'm with him.

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wiseowise 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Are you even living if you're not spending every single minute breathing and shitting your work and/or kids?

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pkilgore 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You "cannot fathom" the privilege your have or life experience you lack to believe this unconditionally.