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masklinn 7 hours ago

> Yes, it's also a systems language without a runtime. But that's not the novel part.

Low level strong correctness was absolutely a novel part. In fact it’s exactly why many people glommed onto early rust, and why it was lowered on the stack.

Although learnability and weirdness budgets were also extremely novel in low level contexts which had been subsumed by C and C++.

> horrors in C++

Yes, horrors in C++. Half baked jerry-rigged and barely usable nonsense. Not an industrial strength langage with a reliable type system and a strong focus on safety through types.

uecker 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Memory safety is not the same a scorrectness and more advanced type is also not the same thing as correctness.

masklinn 3 hours ago | parent [-]

50 years of computing have proved pretty conclusively that less than that is wishful thinking at best. Large C++ programs, even with massive amounts of resources and tooling, can’t even get memory management correct.

uecker 3 hours ago | parent [-]

That Rust gives you correctness is very misleading claim.