| ▲ | faangguyindia a day ago |
| I've built many successful services by listening to entitled users so much that I used to talk with such entitled users all day. They are just passionate and most of the times annoyed because something as simple is not being done right. |
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| ▲ | jlg23 a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| If those "many successful services" are FOSS, you are a very rare breed of developers - one I have not yet encountered in almost 30 years of FOSS development. Could you please link some of your projects? I could use some inspiration how to deal with entitled FOSS users who do not understand that they already got much more than what they paid for. |
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| ▲ | siva7 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I don't think you've done any of that - at least not for a successful open source project. The topic here is about open source volunteers and not your day job. |
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| ▲ | faangguyindia a day ago | parent [-] | | I built businesses not opensource projects. Though many of my projects are completely free for the users. Latest being this one already past 1000+ active users
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.macrocodex... If you don't listen to your passionate users, i doubt you'll ever grow. Someone being rude/entitled doesn't matter to me, I only care about if what they are saying actually makes any sense | | |
| ▲ | siva7 a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Don't take it personally but the people here are talking about open source projects and unpaid work in their free spare time. There is zero value you could share in this thread from your experiences on developing closed source business products because it completely misses the topic of volunteer work. | | |
| ▲ | adjfasn47573 a day ago | parent [-] | | Ehm... no? It's not zero value? He's making a general point about "regardless of how something is presented to you, at the end of the day you have to look at the actual information, and if there is some truth in it, then it would be illogical to dismiss it". | | |
| ▲ | em-bee 19 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | at the end of the day you have to look at the actual information, and if there is some truth in it, then it would be illogical to dismiss it sure, but the amount of nonsense (to avoid the b-word) i am willing to put up with depends on the amount of money i expect to make from the project. for unpaid work that amount is zero. if i am investing my free time and i allow you to benefit from it, you better be nice when you talk to me. when i run a business then the information gained potentially makes my product sell better. for a volunteer project i may not care about popularity, so the information gained is not necessarily of any benefit. | |
| ▲ | siva7 a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Oh, how couldn't i see this. The author also did this and he concluded "OK." right before clicking on the "Archive Project" Button. |
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| ▲ | otikik a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I will listen to a rude paying customer if I must, because my income will be tied to it. If a similar paying customer comes and they are better behaved, the rude customer will take second position. On an open source project that I’m doing for my own enjoyment rude people are not welcome. I’m doing that for my own enjoyment - to decompress after dealing with rude people. Close issue, won’t fix, ban free user. | |
| ▲ | bobvagnelover69 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | incredible jugaad saaaaar!!!! ++ izzat!!! |
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| ▲ | sevg a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > They are just passionate and most of the times annoyed because something as simple is not being done right. No, this is not adequate justification for such behavior towards volunteer FOSS maintainers. |
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| ▲ | thayne 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | It isn't justification for being rude. But just because someone is being rude doesn't mean what they are complaining about isn't an issue. |
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| ▲ | locknitpicker a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > They are just passionate and most of the times annoyed because something as simple is not being done right. I don't think this is the case at all. You are commenting in a discussion on how a maintainer of an unstable project which very clearly and unambiguously only targets and supports a specific version of a runtime. Still, said maintainer is being pestered by entitled users who attack the maintainer and how they chose to invest their free time contributing to the project with accusations of being "insane". This is not "passion". This is sheer entitlement, and abuse on top. If this was passion, you'd see users contributing their work with proposals to post releases. Even very low effort things like forking the repo and posting their custom releases would be infinitely more productive. You know, the core of FLOSS. But no. You have someone doing their best generously contributing their time to provide something to the public, and in return they get insults and abuse. No wonder projects get archived. |
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| ▲ | elliotec a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| What successful services have you built because of entitled users? |
