| ▲ | gmerc 11 hours ago |
| Germany is distracted with its version of “the gun debate” aka speed limits. Like every school shooting, every energy crisis brings opportunity to
saturate the airwaves with shallow noise that gets people overly
upset and they’ll ignore everything else. Every player on both sides is abusing this mechanic for all eternity. |
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| ▲ | whilenot-dev 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I think this view is too reductionist, as people can (and usually do) debate more than one topic at a time. The problem is that technological dependence isn't gaining enough precaution when commodity products are being discussed. What worries me is that it's a real global problem in all of our non-autocratic societies. On a positive note, I can see how this is actually becoming a common understanding and gaining traction, as hyped AI products are seen by some as 3rd-party- or SaaS-killers. It seems like we know how to differentiate between independence and dependence, and evaluate any risks affiliated with such a decision. But it baffles me that this differentiation manages to float as some ironic stream in our Zeitgeist, and just barely manages to be taken seriously. |
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| ▲ | looperhacks 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Nobody is seriously discussing speed limits right now ... |
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| ▲ | CrimsonRain 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | all speed limits in highways are stupid. It should be follow distance enforcement instead. | | |
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| ▲ | bluecalm 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Imagine we had real democracy where people vote on issues.
Speed limits? Vote once every 7 years or so on it and be done with it. Same for abortion laws, drug laws, gambling laws.
Have a debate, vote, come back to it in 7 years if there is public interest.
Preferably vote locally on issues that can be applied locally (like speed limits/enforcement etc.). Public debate and assessing politicians and parties would be so much cleaner then if they couldn't use polarizing issues to rally their support and do w/e they please on all other issues. |
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| ▲ | heavyset_go 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Popular vote would have made sure civil rights legislation never passed and everything down to the schools and bathrooms would still be segregated. | | |
| ▲ | rcbdev 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | What German civil rights legislation are you referring to? |
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| ▲ | kuerbel 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | As a Swiss all I can say is that this is not how that would work out. Some of the most polarising statements I have ever heard come from Swiss politicians. Although it is a more recent development since a certain billionaire (what else) took up politics as a side hustle. | |
| ▲ | jahnu 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I would hate to live in that political system. Just imagining the ways it would be gamed and the billionaire press would leverage these votes makes me shudder. So far the best modern improvement I’ve seen (and it could be further improved of course) is the increasing use of citizens assemblies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens%27_assembly |
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| ▲ | AnthonyMouse 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > every energy crisis brings opportunity to saturate the airwaves with shallow noise that gets people overly upset and they’ll ignore everything else. At least their version has an obvious solution: Make electric cars and solar panels and then stop having oil problems. |
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| ▲ | lukan 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | The speeding debate won't go away with this, though, as speeding is not about oil. | | |
| ▲ | ArnoVW 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I believe the idea is that friction and resistance is proportional to the square of the speed. After a certain speed, every 10 mph extra starts to really count in your mileage. | | |
| ▲ | krater23 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | The idea is that some green ideologists think that when they don't need to drive a car because they don't leave their city, no one needs to drive a car. Because car driving creates CO2 which means car driving is bad. And they search for ways to implement that or make driving a car as bad as possible. Because they can't make the Deutsche Bahn better, they have to make driving your own car worse. | | |
| ▲ | kuerbel 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | An EV is the superior vehicle in every aspect. Cheap fuel, reliable, nice to drive, less maintenance costs, less noisy and yes, no local emissions. | |
| ▲ | AnthonyMouse 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | But then why not just make car driving not create CO2? |
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| ▲ | AnthonyMouse 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You still can't get people upset about gas prices every time there isn't peace in the middle east once they stop buying gas. |
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