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verdverm 16 hours ago

For US motives, it's more about Trump trying to do something for his legacy, he wants to be the one who ended Iran's terror. Obviously not going according to "the plan" and Iran's regime seems to not be going anywhere. There doesn't seem to be any thought of second order effects or what comes after the shooting stops.

Short of regime change, it sounds like this is going to become an exercise in "mowing the lawn" as some people describe it. The irony of course is that it was the US doing regime change that set us on this path.

throw310822 10 hours ago | parent [-]

> For US motives, it's more about Trump trying to do something for his legacy

That's not a US motive, it's a Trump motive. And who used Trump's vanity as a lever? Netanyahu of course. Had it been a different president, he would have used a different lever. Humanitarian reasons, the safety of Israel, you name it. That's what I am saying: it's pointless to talk to the US because the US have no agency anymore.

verdverm 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

I don't disagree and will only add that for people outside of the US, these details are irrelevant. The US elected their representative (twice), this is who we are, despite everyone knowing that the entire population did not choose it.

It's the same light we use when talking about Iran and Israel.