If you saw the Claude Code leak, you’d know the harness is anything but simple. It’s a sprawling, labyrinthine mess, but it’s required to make LLMs somewhat deterministic and useful as tools.

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girvo 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That’s also because of how Claude Code was written. It doesn’t have to be that way per se.

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efromvt 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's pretty easy to get determinism with a simple harness for a well-defined set of tasks with the recent models that are post-trained for tool use. CC probably gets some bloat because it tries to do a LOT more; and some bloat because it's grown organically.

	▲	emp17344 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		>It's pretty easy to get determinism with a simple harness for a well-defined set of tasks with the recent models that are post-trained for tool use. Do you have a source? Claude Code is the only genetic system that seems to really work well enough to be useful, and it’s equipped with an absolutely absurd amount of testing and redundancy to make it useful.

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xstas1 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Hypothesis: it's a sprawling, labyrinthine mess because it was grown at high speed using Claude Code.

	▲	emp17344 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		There’s a lot of redundancy, because there has to be to make the system useful. It’s a hacked together mess.