| ▲ | Noaidi 10 hours ago |
| Yes, all of this happens (and worse!) and still no boycott of Facebook. We have been turned into a country of dopamine deficient addicts. And now these same companies are funding a useless war, killing innocent children, and soon, collapsing the world economy. If you still use these platforms knowing what we know now you are just as complicit as every executive. https://www.resistandunsubscribe.com/ |
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| ▲ | nubinetwork 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Hard to boycott something you quit using 10 years ago. |
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| ▲ | none2585 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I'm in your boat, but I've been thinking more lately around how we create competitors to the sorts of things that people claim "lock them in" to using Facebook (events and messenger are the ones I hear the most anecdotally). Make these things reasonably self-sustaining monetarily (no ads) and just let it run. | | |
| ▲ | miki123211 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Messenger does 3 things right: 1. Being able to discover people by name / surname, no phone number necessary. This is the most important privacy feature people care about, it's ironic that Meta had it from the get-go, while other platforms have barely caught up. 2. Used to have frictionless message sync, including in the event of a catastrophic loss of all devices, which put it far ahead of most apps (sadly nerfed by E2E). 3. A much better group implementation than Whatsapp / iMessage (no need to maintain a contacts list, no need to share phone numbers with everybody, you know who everybody is by name and surname). This is perfect for semi-professional groups where people are acquainted but not close with each other, especially when some members hold positions of power and don't wish to receive calls from irate people). Parents / teachers or blue-collar coworkers are perfect examples. It's sad that all these apps are converging on the same set of features and mis-features, with nobody (except Telegram) really exploring the tradeoff space any more. | | |
| ▲ | alex1138 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | > sadly nerfed by E2E Seriously, why? (Not you, I'm asking rhetorically to Facebook) This broke Messenger. People don't have each others' email addresses (FB has seen to that https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4151433), it's Messenger. It was completely unforced and don't give me that malarky of "protecting messages" | | |
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| ▲ | johnnyanmac 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The base tech of a "friend discovery network" isn't "hard" in the grand scheme of things. But getting those who don't put much thought into their tech to care enough to move out takes a gargantuan effort. Musk had to go full nazi to start seeing the bluesky adoption, and it still isn't the level of catastropic effect you'd think would happen if you heard about this 20 years prior. |
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| ▲ | paulryanrogers 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | 'We' as in the nation (world?) at large. FaceBook hasn't faced a large-scale boycott |
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| ▲ | shmichael 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| On the other side of every "useless war" is the what if question. Killing Hitler before WWII would have been seen as a cruel interference with German sovereignty. Anyway it would be wise not to tie social network corporate affairs to the war. The two are not linked in a more significant way than a social network in general being linked to such affairs as a media. |
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| ▲ | crote 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Are we going to ignore how Zuckerberg dines with the president, donated a $1M to his inauguration fund, put Trump allies in high positions at Meta, loosened the moderation rules in Trump's favour, and got appointed to the president's Science and Tech Council only a few days ago? If you are that deeply intertwined you can't claim ignorance and innocense on the inconvenient stuff - like the Iran War. If you want to stay with WWII metaphors: if you contributed to putting Hitler in power and benefited from Hitler's favors, you were complicit to the Holocaust. |
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| ▲ | johnnyanmac 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I haven't logged onto Facebook in some 6 years now, so I can't really do much more to boycott them. That's the big issue of the post truth era. I imagine the number of people "using these platforms despite what we know" is minuscule. Most will never hear of this, and many who do know have probably left long before this for the other dozens of crimes against humanity Meta's performed. Of the rest of this list. Youtube Premium is the only thing I'm still subscribed too. I actively unsubbed from Prime and am setting up to unsub from Google One. |
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| ▲ | breve 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Facebook is an addiction for many people. Mark Zuckerberg thinks Facebook users are "dumb fucks": https://www.businessinsider.com/well-these-new-zuckerberg-im... |