Trans women are not male, including biologically if you assume HRT. This is overcompensating rationality to shit on a group of people that are functionally intersex for "biological" distinction.

And we're not even talking about a context where biology matters. You just wanted to vice signal.

If you want to make this an SBGG criticism, I'd love to see you even get close to proving abuse beyond singular instances. Even all the right-wingers that said they'd change their gender marker to make a point did not. Because people don't do that lightly.

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jadamson 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Setting aside arguments over biology, avoiding getting sent to war to be blown to pieces wouldn't be a "light" reason to consider claiming gender diversity.

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asmor 2 days ago | parent [-]

SBGG has an exclusion carved out for people who share this opinion (not me).

https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/sbgg/__9.html

	▲	jadamson 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Interesting, so they have to see the writing on the wall a couple of months in advance (plus processing time, presumably).

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renewiltord 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What are the consequences of changing the marker? Does it impose legal requirements on people or is it a matter of identity alone? Just curious why people don't take it lightly. Identity is important so that will suffice as an explanation.

EDIT: I'm rate-limited on comments, so if you come back here and read this, thank you for sharing from experience.

	▲	asmor 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		I'll give Germany credit insofar that it matters less than one would think. The only identifying documents that carry this information are passport and birth certificate. Social security number if you know how to read them. You will still have to deal with a ton of bureaucratic overhead and little moments where this is disclosed. For instance, your health insurance (and doctors) will usually know (the marker, not that you're trans, i get endometrial cancer screening recommended to me) and start to bicker about non-standard healthcare (i.e. I can get my estradiol tested at my GP, but for testosterone I need to see an endocrinologist) and your social security / employer will know (I also have at least 3 aliased social security numbers at this point). Pure gender marker changes absent a name change are a lot less common, so it's not exactly well known territory.

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throwawaypath a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>Trans women are not male

Trans-women are human males.

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jasiff 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

They are male. It is one of the definitional criteria. In gender identity parlance, it is the attribute that distinguishes "trans women" from "cis women". The latter of whom are female.