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sunshine-o 2 days ago

Those governments are totally inept.

For decades they have alienated their own native population, especially men. And now they want to conscript them as their approval ratings are around 15℅.

Think about it, Trump approval rating fell sharply but is still at about 40%. Merz is at 15% and most of those 15% are probably boomers in a nursing home. He is probably closer to 0% within the demographic he is trying to conscript.

The only war you're gonna get in Europe is a civil war.

aleph_minus_one 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> For decades they have alienated their own native population, especially men. And now they want to conscript them as their approval ratings are around 15℅.

In particular concerning the military conscription (laws), there exists a cross-generational opposition to these.

I just post two famous songs concerning this topic (if you know German):

Franz Josef Degenhardt - Befragung eines Kriegsdienstverweigerers [40 Interrogation of a conscientious objector] (1972)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDTtMTcj8X0

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Reinhard Mey - Nein, meine Söhne geb' ich nicht (1986)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0qPsYTBCtQ

Reinhard Mey & Freunde [Reinhard Mey & friends] - Nein, meine Söhne geb' ich nicht [No, I won't give my sons] (new recording; 2020)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q-Ga3myTP4

See also https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nein,_meine_S%C3%B6hne_geb%E2%...

SkiFire13 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> He is probably closer to 0% within the demographic he is trying to conscript.

To be fair going against the demographic where you have a 0% approval rate does not lose you much.

randomNumber7 2 days ago | parent [-]

At some point you need to be nice to your children or they'll not help you when you get old and senile.

td2 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I think comparing percentages inst quite fair, considering you have only two choices in the us, compared to the spectrum of choices un germany.