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atoav a day ago

I have been in Tokyo a week ago and that they want to do "something" to affect the behavior of cyclists is absolutely unsurprising to me. Cyclists are definitely a problem in Tokyo. They ride like maniacs, always on sidewalks, even if there are bicycle paths on the road. The actually surprising thing was that the otherwise very ordered and rule-abiding tokyoites are so chaotic when it comes to bicycles.

Now where I am from every school kid gets to take part during a days long bicycle safety introduction and after that most citizens will be relatively ok to ride practically for the rest of their lifes. In Tokyo it seemed to me that tokyoites seemed to have declared bicycling a rule-free space for themselves. I have been there two weeks and witnessed 3 near accidents on the sidewalk.

I am not a fan of bureaucrats, but we can't assume people are able to create a good outcome just by themselves without education, guidance, rules and enforcement. The best way is to educate your population early on on how move in a public space using bicycles. But if you have a problem to solve right now the next best thing is the law.

krispyfi a day ago | parent | next [-]

Cyclist in Tokyo here. Maybe I wouldn't need to go on the sidewalk so much if they didn't let cars treat the bicycle lane like roadside parking. Enforce that before enforcing some stupid green ticket. We need dedicated bicycle lanes partitioned from the car lanes like I've seen in Australia.

atoav a day ago | parent [-]

Yeah, I am a cyclist myself. The bicycle lanes in Tokyo were woefully inadequate, so many cyclists using the pedestrian areas is not really a big surprise. But what was a surprise (mirrored in one of your silbling comments) was the way in which they did it.

I am living in Germany and there are also cyclists on sidewalks here. But I don't think I ever had the feeling when walking here that I needed to move when a cyclist approached. Cyclists are aware they are not supposed to be there so they will have to wait to pass. That was different in Tokyo, hence also my lack of surprise that there needs to be some regulation, since this was clearly dangerous and with a city that size this has to end up in hospitals on a daily basis.

cedws a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, I gained a habit of constantly checking over my shoulders because of the people who will speed past you on e-bikes with very little room. Even parents with their kid in the back ride like mad.

Samtidsfobiker a day ago | parent | prev [-]

This was something I really reacted to in Japan. Cyclists had absolutely no manners at all. I know it is popular to complain about cyclists everywhere, but Japan really stood out to me)