That's fair. I agree. I was thinking of the USA as one actor. The USA votes, or chooses not to, and that has effects.

True. In that sense the voters have self decapitated. I can’t understand how the Trump administration still has support from 40% of the country (per polls). I could understand voting for him due to some issue a voter has strong feelings about. But now we have seen it all play out and it’s a disaster leading to national ruin. And there is no talk of impeachment, trials, and accountability for everyone in his circle. So I guess that 40% DOES choose to self decapitate.

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aaronbrethorst 37 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Heather McGhee's concept of 'drained pool politics' really resonates with me: https://newrepublic.com/article/171844/heather-mcghee-moving...

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b3ing 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They don’t care when the media on am and talk radio, evangelical and mega churches, and all the conservative news tells them what to believe

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consumer451 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Media that is never critical towards one side is what started all of this. A politician's kryptonite is when their voters find out that they lied or were hypocrites. That is a universal truth.

Single party media outlets like News Corp, Sinclair, Euronews, and so many others have broken that system entirely.

My test to see if someone is a shill/moron is to simply ask them to say one obvious bad thing about "their side." If they cannot, it becomes clear that they are not worth listening to.

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andsoitis an hour ago | parent [-]

What’s the worst thing, in your mind, about “your side”, assuming you have one.

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		I grew up in Seattle mostly, some of my policy positions could paint me as a progressive, and they are somewhat "my people." It turns out that progressives are just as easily fooled as any other group, by a slick turn of phrase. For example, "Genocide Joe." I once thought my group was more thoughtful. But, it turns out that ALL of us are easily programmed meat machines. Voted for Obama, he totally messed up with Russia and Crimea. I could go on, and on. Fallibilism, ftw? Can't be sure :)

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georgemcbay 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> and all the conservative news tells them what to believe

And most traditional news is conservative now.

The idea that the mainstream media was ever leftest was always wrong, but these days its absolutely laughable and yet a lot of people still parrot this like it is the truth.

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