Clueless? The US has been interfering in Iran (stuff like removing democratically elected prime minister) since 1953, at least.

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hereme888 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The 1953 coup was ugly realpolitik, but the Islamic Republic's hostility began in 1979 (hostage crisis, embassy takeover, fatwas against the West). Iran has been the initiator of most modern conflict.

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UncleOxidant 2 hours ago | parent [-]

So you don't think 1953 had anything to do with 1979? It just kind of happened out of the blue?

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hereme888 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It contributed, but downright accusing the US for 1979 ignores Iranian agency, the Shah's own policy failures, economic/social pressures, and the ideological revolutionaries.

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jm4 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I think you need to learn more about the history of U.S./Iran relations over the past 75 years. There was a pretty good episode of NPR Throughline a couple weeks back that gets into the CIA bullshit and then 1979 onwards. Iran has not been a good actor, but we aren’t exactly saints either. It’s an ugly situation all around.

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UncleOxidant an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Sure, and how did they get the Shah, again? You're maybe starting to get closer to enlightenment.

	▲	hereme888 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Ok, the Shah didn’t just randomly happen. The U.S. and U.K. helped put him back in power, so American interference is part of the chain that led to 1979... apparently largely due to geopolitical and crude oil reasons.... huh. Enlightened.