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The house is a work of art: Frank Lloyd Wright(aeon.co)
59 points by midnightfish 6 hours ago | 24 comments
mauvehaus 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

For the northeastern US folks and anyone willing to travel: the Currier Museum of Art in Manchester, NH has not one but two Frank Lloyd Wright houses in its collection[0]. I’ve seen the Zimmerman House a couple of times, and it hews pretty close to the familiar aesthetic of Fallingwater: warm tones, lovely space, furniture to match.

The Kalil House I got to see recently, it’s the newer acquisition. It’s a Usonian Automatic, meaning the owner was meant to buy the plans and the molds for the concrete blocks, and the build it themselves. Long story short: it didn’t go exactly as planned.

The house is fascinating though: much of it is a concrete gray rather than the warmer tones we usually associate wiry Wright’s work. It feels less tied to the place it’s built than either the Zimmerman House or Fallingwater. It feels much less starkly architectural, and more connected to the way regular people live, more attainable, insofar as you can use that word with Wright. They also both have ceilings that work with taller people. Fallingwater is downright claustrophobic in places.

Highly worth the trip if you’re in the area.

And if you’re in the area of Fallingwater, Kentucky Knob is basically right there. If you’ve travelled more than a few hours to see Fallingwater, you’d be nuts to miss it.

[0] https://www.currier.org/frank-lloyd-wright

mynegation 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Fallingwater is more than work of art, it is a religious experience. I visited it three times (each time my visit to Pittsburgh and the area surrounding the house was to specifically see it) and every damn time I stood weeping leaving the tour.

Mistletoe 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Can you describe why?

screye an hour ago | parent [-]

I can only describe it being overcome with a sense of love and harmony. I was giggling ear-to-ear the whole time I was there.

Great works of art are meant to be religious experiences. At Falling water, every part of the house & estate feels like it was meant to be there. The shapes and curves feel so right. The emphasis on integrating natural materials makes it feel one with nature. Frank Lloyd wright cared a lot about sight lines, which makes every space easy on the eyes.

I've had similar experiences in great Basilicas[0] such as Sagrada Familia[1]. Smaller objects have evoked similar feelings too. Be that cars (The Ferrari Roma[2] or Alfa 33 Stadale[3]) or intricate jewelery (Earrings [4] or watches [5]). Great beauty feels divine, and Fallingwater is one such example.

[0] Special shout-out to the new Romanesque basilica in DC - https://maps.app.goo.gl/8r59NzbgVnqKYAv2A

[1] https://thebarcelonafeeling.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/S...

[2] https://media.architecturaldigest.com/photos/5f96f18f0a2396c...

[3] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Alfa_Rom...

[4] https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/39320

[5] https://www.watchclub.com/upload/watches/gallery_big/watch-c...

zdw 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you ever visit Taliesin in Wisconsin (which has a pretty bland), you should also visit the nearby House on the Rock which is a fascinating and very weird collection of esoteric and kitschy items.

The contrast in attitudes and aesthetics between the two is incredibly stark, and it's very interesting to see the reactions of visitors to each location.

kiernanmcgowan 3 hours ago | parent [-]

This is, by far, one of the weirdest places I've ever visited. Tonal whiplash is an understatement.

linksnapzz 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you'd like, you can still speak to the last living client (as of last year) of FLW; still living in the house the architect designed for him:

https://alumni.cornell.edu/cornellians/reisley-wright-last-c...

gabrielsroka 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://archive.org/details/frank-lloyd-wright-ken-burns

diabllicseagull 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Fallingwater has just gone through a series of renovations and all areas are now accessible. If you haven't seen it yet, now is a great time.

Lost-Futures 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

As student I had privilege of visiting Taliesin West in Arizona. Easily my favorite architect, a true artist.

kev009 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I remember rumors going around Phoenix of someone trying to demolish the David and Gladys Wright House in 2011. Someone got a great deal on it around that time, $1m. It sold with a 7-10x return a a few years later.

Viewed in isolation it is a bit underwhelming, but if you see it in landscape it has a charm. I think a copper roof on both structures would make it pop.

iwontberude 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you haven't visited falling water, definitely go. It's American architecture at its finest.

crooked-v 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm sad that we're coming up towards 100 years on from Fallingwater being built, and yet the American preference for new houses of a similar price (after inflation) is the sort of awful stuff that shows up on mcmansionhell.com.

tptacek 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The instinct to preserve and honor Frank Lloyd Wright in Oak Park, where I live, has basically frozen the place in amber, which isn't something Wright would have wanted, and also worked synergistically with exclusive zoning to keep the Village ultra-expensive (it directly abuts the Austin neighborhood in Chicago, which is low-middle income) and white (unlike Austin, which is 90+% Black).

No idea what Wright would have thought about racial housing segregation, but it was certainly a knock-on effect of the preservationist cult he accidentally created.

nullc 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The kind of bespoke construction in Wright's buildings couldn't be built today at an order of magnitude higher price, even considering inflation. A side effect of mass produced standard construction materials has been custom ones becoming astronomically expensive due to the skilled labor to build them having been replaced with mass production.

I suspect projects like fallingwater have siting considerations that wouldn't allow it to be built at all anywhere in the US... isn't it built basically on top of a WOTUS?

linksnapzz 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It'd be in litigation forever; which is why nobody with the means would try to build something like that today. Even if they could afford the construction, they can't afford the time in court.

Larry Ellison owns a replica Japanese daimyo mansion in Woodside, two mansions on Bellevue Avenue in Newport, and 98% of the island of Lanai...but none of those structures there are (AFAIK) atop a permanent watercourse.

ramesh31 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

People want square footage and comfort, not design. Frank Lloyd Wright homes look stunning in an Architectural Digest spread, but living in them is not really up to par for modern standards.

linksnapzz 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The newest homes that FLW had a hand in building date from 1959.

By the standards of the time, they were comfortable (if a bit lacking in closet space).

If you'd like, you can buy a modernized kit Usonian (inspired by the Jacobs I house) from Lindal here:

https://lindal.com/home-designs/madison/

hibikir 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That hous is still extremely small for what most people in the US would put in a full sized suburban lot: Nowadays a median build is 2300 square feet (213 square meters). It makes that 1600 square feet look very small. The hallways, the large space dedicated to a great room and just 2 bedrooms won't help.

You will find new houses that small, but typically when it's extremely high value land, so typically infill. And then chances are it's a multi story house that fits the lot to the limit.

linksnapzz 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Lindal has larger models, for those so inclined.

That said, the kit pictured will, if constructed, will have amenities & physical qualities that the similarly sized original Jacobs house has had to have retrofitted at great cost.

bombcar 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

1600 square for two bed/two bath will feel large if well designed; many modern houses are not well designed for their size - usually one version of a given plan is the "optimal/designed" version, and you can keep adding things that make it frankly ridiculous, weird winding hallways, small rooms, etc.

anjel 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Looks more MCM than FLW to me

WillPostForFood 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The main house uses 9,300 square feet of which 4,400 is outdoor terraces, while the guest house totals 4,990 square feet of which 1,950 square feet is outdoor terraces.

https://fallingwater.org/media-resources/fallingwater-facts/

therobots927 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Anyone downvoting you clearly doesn’t watch Arvin Haddads YouTube channel because it really is revolting how much subpar trash sells for $50 million+. Even at the highest end of the housing market you see a consistent demand for absolute garbage that is about as close to art as a pile of rancid shit.