| ▲ | moshegramovsky 4 hours ago |
| I don't understand why American workers would support this program at this scale. Furthermore, I believe universities and other similar researchy/affiliated non-profits are exempt from the hiring caps. I just cannot imagine executives at tech companies/body shops having any positive ethical motivations. More like "they'll do what we say without complaining or they'll go home". There's no way it's not just a hugely abusive to both pools of workers. The whole thing really feels like another example of the imbalance between labor and capital in the US. Who originally wanted H-1B/etc? Rich people with money and power? Of course! |
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| ▲ | dexwiz 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Because our government is not run for the workers but the owners. Full stop. |
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| ▲ | skippyboxedhero 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | To be clear too, this is not capitalism. This is corporatism. Large companies dictating economic companies is anti-innovation. It can only end with disaster and more control/corporatism because lower-productivity workers does not produce higher long-term growth. Temporarily you are able to get your bonus and stock options from the spread between imported and native workers but, eventually, demand and supply stop (and the US reached this point a while ago, which is why central bankers and politicians have had to intervene heavily to keep it going). The end game for corporatism is shown in Europe where you can see a clear gap between countries that are built on non-zero sum systems which are thriving, everything just works...and then other countries which have been heavily corporatist for multiple decades, everything is collapsing, government function is both non-existent in many areas and reaching new highs of intervention into markets. Unfortunately, the Chinese were right. | |
| ▲ | iugtmkbdfil834 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There are days I think what we need is a slightly bigger font for heavily upvoted comments. | |
| ▲ | infamouscow 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Owners are a minority of voters, which raises an obvious question: why does the majority tolerate it? Every serious attempt to answer that ends up admitting something uncomfortable, that democracy only functions as intended if voters are consistently rational and informed. But that assumption doesn’t hold. It never has. Even the Athenians put Socrates, father of Western civilization, to death. If society were at all rational, we'd see a lot more people swing from lampposts. | | |
| ▲ | dexwiz an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Because many people run on policies and then just don't follow up. Trump ran on "no more wars" and then started a war. Most people have such a team mindset they will choose denial over admitted they were duped, and then do it all again. | |
| ▲ | ipaddr 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Wealth can be spent on influence. That includes news converage / ads / or donations. |
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| ▲ | fooker 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There's not much preventing you from starting a company and not hiring immigrants. This is something I'd encourage everyone with strong opinions about work visas to try and accomplish. You don't change a system by crying about it on anonymous internet forums, you do it by competing against it and making it redundant. |
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| ▲ | declan_roberts an hour ago | parent [-] | | It's better to stop a bad program at the source and improve the lives all of American software engineers. | | |
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| ▲ | some_random 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It was really easy to support when tech jobs were plentiful, well compensated, and fun. |
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| ▲ | dominotw 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| workers dont. but dont speak against it either because they are scared of losing heir jobs from accusations of racism. |
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| ▲ | moshegramovsky 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I work in Bellevue, WA, and there are a lot of Indians. How many are on H-1B? I I don't know. Anyway, I am a life long Democrat, but the Democratic Party needs to do something huge for American workers (like single payer healthcare) or we'll have Trump III or its equivalent or worse than that. | | |
| ▲ | dudul 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I don't think "American workers" are the target demographic of the Democratic Party though. And yes, the next round will be "worse than Trump". The reality is Trump ran on certain principles that his voters adhered to, and he didn't deliver. The next logical step will be to support somebody even more "extreme". |
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