…against the viet cong, where the biggest risk was the pilot getting pierced from small arms fire (in addition to the helo going down from pilot error). Quite different from the anti-air weapons modern day Iran possesses.

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Edman274 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Are you aware that hundreds of American fixed wing aircraft were lost to surface to air missiles in North Vietnam? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._aircraft_losses_t...

	▲	jwilber 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Ah yeah, well I didn’t know it was that high! But I’m responding to the rescue mission comment, which, since Vietnam, have overwhelmingly employed helicopters (Huey’s then, Black Hawks today). But machinery aside, the larger point is that air operations will likely go worse here than they did in Vietnam, unfortunately for both sides.

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greedo 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You're conflating the Viet Cong with North Vietnam.

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bigyabai 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Or a MiG-17 that could outrate your F-4/F-105 at every subsonic flight regime.