How about a different take: This isn't really about two open source organizations fighting. It's a psyop from the powers that want to stop the digital sovereignty initiatives going on around the world by amplifying some friction that already existed. People won't want to use products with so much drama and uncertainty.

TDF needs to eject the members who pulled the strings hardest on this - they are plants.

Damn I didn't know I had that much of a tinfoil hat.

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ocdtrekkie 39 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I'm confident the person who most wants to sabotage LibreOffice's success is Italo Vignoli. He's involved in this issue as well, but the other core problem is his marketing strategy: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/author/italovignoli...

Most of his blogs are about how awful OOXML (Microsoft Office's open standard) formats are, and that everyone needs to switch to ODF (his preferred open standard).

What people don't want to use is products which don't work with everyone else's. LibreOffice works with Microsoft Office files really well, but for some reason Italo doesn't want you to know that. He wants the entire world to switch formats to LibreOffice's formats, but really that's just telling potential business users LibreOffice can't meet their needs... interacting with the existing monopoly of Microsoft Office users.

This is a self-sabotaging marketing approach. LibreOffice needs to be promoting itself as an excellent drop-in replacement for Microsoft Office which will easily interoperate with every other organization's office applications, regardless of format.

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bawolff 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> People won't want to use products with so much drama and uncertainty.

Really? You think the average user cares about this drama?

	▲	Arainach 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Businesses and governments do, and they're both the target market and the drivers behind digital sovereignty efforts.
	▲	notatoad 17 minutes ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		The average user is not aware of this project’s existence. LibreOffice is a niche project for tech nerds. I’m one of them. I’m a fan. But be real. every single person I’ve tried to share it with has reacted with a collective “uh, who cares? I’ll just use ms word or Google Docs” The only mainstream success it has had is institutional users with an open source mandate like a few European governments. And those aren’t exactly average users either.
	▲	stronglikedan 9 minutes ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		Really? You think the average user is a TDF user?
	▲	toss1 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I don't think GP is talking about average users; they seem to be talking about decision-makers in organizations, e.g., a town board that wants to achieve digital independence, but is made unsure by apparent turmoil in the governance in open source orgs...

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mrks_hy 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Hah. Anyone with some tokens to burn can compose a report on the data?