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mapontosevenths 2 hours ago

Exactly, as with all security you have to ask what the threat model you're defending against is and what you're willing to pay.

If it's "Google knows too much and I want an alternative" Proton is great, cheap, and convienent. If it' "my own government might kill me" then it might be time to think about self hosting.

palata an hour ago | parent [-]

> "Google knows too much and I want an alternative" Proton is great, cheap, and convienent.

I think that Proton does a good job with the suite (docs, sheets, calendar, password manager), and I believe they have a good VPN (for what we may expect from a VPN).

Interestingly, Proton started with ProtonMail, and I find it's the least convincing of their products:

1. As an individual, writing from your ProtonMail account to (probably) someone on GMail doesn't change anything.

2. As a company, writing from Proton to Proton is a good idea, but there is no need for end-to-end encryption: just choose a mail provider you trust, I guess?

3. The ProtonMail end-to-end encryption in the web browser defeats the purpose of E2EE: you have to trust Proton anyway, because they serve the code every time your employees load the page.