This headline is kind of misleading.

First of all, there is no process yet for exactly requesting permission, secondly, the army already said they will not enforce the rule unless the Parliament declares combat readiness is necessary, and lastly, there is no punishment for not asking permission at this point in time.

And to be completely honest, if more people made use of registering for the damn ELEFAND emergency contact list, this rule wouldn’t be necessary in the first place.

So, men are kind of responsible for this themselves by being lazy.

I had to help exfil Germans in Kabul when the US decided to pull out without telling all of their partners in time.

Everyone wanted to be rescued, but you have no idea how many German idiots travel to foreign countries, not even taking five minutes to let their own government know how to reach them and where they went in case of an emergency.

It’s super fun to drive around Kabul and pick up 55 years old complaining male Germans yelling at me because I told them I transport people, not their fucking luggage. Two even sued me afterwards for leaving their expensive camera equipment behind. A dozen complaints about my behavior.

Sometimes it’s really annoying to protect the average citizen. Luckily, I understand that it is an extreme situation for them. Just like some people sue nurses after they broke their ribs reviving their dead ass.

It’s a good thing all these idiots now have to ask for permission in the future and likely need to leave the data necessary so it’s known where they are, for how long and how to reach them.

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raffael_de 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

just want to point out you started at this headline is misleading and meandered to agreeing with this being a law now and it was made for a reason and it will be enforced sooner or later. and that's effectively the headline + you think it's a good thing.

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Jamesbeam 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Thank you, I suspect the _de in your username means you are German or German-speaking?

A friend from the US sent the link to this thread to me, asking about it.

The source website has no ability to be switched to English language, so all information my friend got was from the headline, which without context was misleading for him. If it was clear people wouldn’t ask German-speaking friends to explain this to them, don’t you think?

And if we are really precise, right now German men don’t need to request permission, because there is neither a process nor any paperwork in place to request permission.

Without being able to see and understand the context, the headline on its own is misleading in my opinion.

Just do an experiment for yourself.

Take the original transcript from any trump speech during the Iran war and put it in a German translator. You will understand it’s about the Iran war but you will be surprised how insane those speeches sound if you are not able to understand English and rely on Google Translate to understand the context.

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raffael_de 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I get your point, I'm not agreeing ... anyway, there are plenty of tools available to translate text from German to English.

	▲	Jamesbeam 6 hours ago \| parent [-]
		That’s fine. I don’t want to get into a discussion about how important the accuracy of translation is with topics like law, civil rights, military, etc. I trust humans. I don’t trust machines. You do you. Thank you for the exchange and pointing out my inaccuracy. I will try to do better next time. Have a good day and enjoy your Easter holidays if you’re Christian.

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haukem 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> First of all, there is no process yet for exactly requesting permission, secondly, the army already said they will not enforce the rule unless the Parliament declares combat readiness is necessary, and lastly, there is no punishment for not asking permission at this point in time.

Previously this article 3 was only active in the "Spannungs- oder Verteidigungsfall" which the Parliament has to declare. The law was extended with: "Außerhalb des Spannungs- oder Verteidigungsfalls gelten die §§ 3, 8a bis 20b, 25, 32 bis 35, 44 und 45." so this article is always active now.