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tclancy 6 hours ago

Because to accomplish anything at scale you need organization. And organizing humans in anything other than forced labor involves respecting them, thus things like codes of conduct. These stories could be about anything and you gamergate veterans will show up grinding one of those axes. Care to throw in wild speculation about whether they use “master” as their main branch name, “slave” as backup database terminology or “allowlist”. You know, any of those things that are keeping America from being great and winning the war.

replooda 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

OpenBSD, a rather more complex project, seems to be doing fine without a code of conduct — in the sense bakugo employed "code of conduct," not in the generalized sensed you conflated it with in your non sequitur.

warkdarrior an hour ago | parent | next [-]

OpenBSD has a "netiquette" doc for its mailing lists: https://www.openbsd.org/mail.html

Not sure if you want to count it as a "code of conduct", but it certainly defines rules on how to communicate and contribute to the project.

replooda 21 minutes ago | parent [-]

I'd count it as one in the general sense I'd count the style(9) manpage as another, not in the specific sense I indicated I was referring to:

> ... fine without a code of conduct — in the sense bakugo employed "code of conduct," not in the generalized sense ...

toyg 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean, I like openbsd the product, but the community culture is notoriously terrible and unwelcoming to newbies.

replooda 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I find it just the opposite. I can think of few communities nearly as patient or welcoming to anyone who's earnest and willing to put in the work to learn; true, there's no coddling or hand-holding, and, indeed, it tends to be very direct in calling out foolishness or laziness, and can reach epic proportions when it comes to dishonesty or entitlement, but nothing which can't be processed by emotional maturity, nor the gratuitous pedanticism-fueled browbeating often seen in some I-use-foo-btw open-source communities despite their shiny CoCs.

rmunn 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Because to accomplish anything at scale you need organization. And organizing humans in anything other than forced labor involves respecting them, thus things like codes of conduct.

This part of your comment was worthwhile. You should have stopped there, before starting to grind an unrelated political axe. Let's at least try to follow the "Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity." guideline, eh?

jaapz 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There are many open source projects out there that accomplished many things on an insane scale that are driven by single developers

Or do you mean scale of organization?

psychoslave 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Organisation can take many form. Hierarchy and bureaucracy are two possible applicable categories in that domain.

steve1977 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Because to accomplish anything at scale you need organization.

I guess the question is does the size of the organization match the scale of what they want to accomplish?

bakugo 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

TIL open source projects simply didn't work before a certain (often big tech associated) crowd of non-contributors started forcing bureaucracy and codes of conduct down everyone's throats less than a decade ago.