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neya 3 hours ago

Home page boldly claims:

    EuRopE dOeS iT BeTtEr.
There is literally a story trending on HN right now:

     Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.
This superiority complex needs to stop.

Source: https://www.sambent.com/proton-meet-isnt-what-they-told-you/

palata 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Home page boldly claims: EuRopE dOeS iT BeTtEr.

That's a marketing slogan, not anything that is in the culture.

> This superiority complex needs to stop.

It exists in the US, though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americanism_(ideology)

int3 3 hours ago | parent [-]

the difference is that one of them is actually justified!

Boltgolt 2 hours ago | parent [-]

For a specific group of people in the world anything but "USA nr1" is hard to image, I understand. Can the nuanced take be: Europe does it better sometimes? Not the best slogan but you're not in marketing

BLKNSLVR 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> This superiority complex needs to stop.

There's one person in the world currently setting the example, with every single verbal or textual utterance.

This website ain't hurting anyone. Good on them, keep it up.

jaccola 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I first learned when reading about Steve Jobs, how the Japanese never use "quality" in their advertising. Yet people still view(ed, at least) Japanese manufactured goods as superior quality. It turns out people don't judge quality based on what you tell them but based on their experience.

All this to say: I wouldn't stress about it too much. In the consumer space the best usually does win, and people will simply vote with their feet.

palata 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> In the consumer space the best usually does win

It was like this with capitalism. But we live in an era of Technofeudalism, where it's not the case anymore.

BLKNSLVR 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah, well, that's how capitalism was meant to work, but mostly seems to have been implemented with various thumbs on scales (which is also true for most of the -isms).

Feels kinda like the thumbs on the scales resulted in the (d)evolution towards techno-feudalism.

inexcf 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Proton is quite the bad example. Technically european but not in the EU and thus horrible privacy and data security regulations while claiming that being in Switzerland makes them trustworthy.

fricanest 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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