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ArmadilloGang 2 hours ago

They were not framing it that way. They were proposing a retort to someone else that suggested Israel is a civilized western country.

The person you are responding to was saying that for that to be true (Israel = civilized western nation) that either it is civilized to do all those awful things or that Israel is not doing those things.

Obviously, both are false. So you are responding to someone who agrees with you all the way.