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athoscouto 3 days ago

Cursor has been my main AI tool for over a year now.

I've been trying to use Claude Code seriously for over a month, but every time I do it, I get the impression that it would take me less work to do with Cursor.

I'm on the enterprise plan, so it can get pricey. This is why I used to stick mostly to auto mode.

Now Composer 2 has taken over as my default model. It is not as intelligent as OpenAI's or Anthropic's flagship models, but I feel it has as good as or better intuition. With way better pricing. It can get stuck in more complex tasks though.

Being able to get in the loop, stop and instruct or change models makes all the difference. And that is why I've stayed in the editor mode until now. Let's see if 3.0 changes that.

dirtbag__dad 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

I was a Cursor loyal until I was spending around $2k a week with premium models and my team had a discussion about whether we’d want to use more Cursor over hire another engineer. We unanimously agreed we’d rather hire another team member. I’m more productive than ever but I’m burning out.

Anyway, as a result, I switched to Claude Code Max and I am equally as prolific and paying 1/10th the price. I get my cake and to eat it, too. *Note there’s a Cursor Ultra, which at quick glance seems akin to Claude Code Max. Notice that both are individual plans, I believe I’m correct you benefit from choosing those token-wise over a team or enterprise plan?

Anyway, you’re right Claude Code is less ergonomic; generally slower. I was losing my mind over Opus in Cursor spinning up subagents. I don’t notice that happen nearly as frequently in Claude Code itself. I think it has to do with my relatively basic configuration. CC keeps getting better the more context I feed it though, which is stuff like homegrown linters to enforce architecture.

All to say, Cursor’s pricing model is problematic and left a bad taste in my mouth. Claude Code seems to need a bunch of hand holding at first to be magical. Pick your poison

sbysb 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Anyway, you’re right Claude Code is less ergonomic; generally slower.

The secret in my experience is parallelization - Cursor might be faster or have better ergo for a single task, but Claude Code really shines when you have 6 tasks that are fairly independent.

If you treat CC as just another terminal tool and heavily use git worktrees, the overall productivity shoots through the window. I've been using a tool called Ouijit[1] for this (disclosure: the dev is an old colleague of mine), and I genuinely do not think I could go back to using Cursor or any other traditional IDE+agent. I barely even open the code in an editor anymore, primarily interacting through the term with Vim when I need to pull the wires out.

[1]: https://github.com/ouijit/ouijit

athoscouto 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Cursor can do that well too. Their code review feature usually gives a handful of independent feedbacks. I just trigger agents independently for all of those. Other integrations with Linear and Slack are also very handy to getting into this workflow. Seems like the 3.0 version is aiming at getting better at this use case.

sbysb 3 days ago | parent [-]

FWIW I'm not saying Cursor is not capable of this, but that all of the 'Cursor' bits are superfluous, and using tools that bring you closer to the 'bare metal' of the terminal actually give you both more flexibility (I can run Claude Code, Crush, Codex, OpenCode, etc) and remove an entire layer of abstraction that I believe hinders a devs ability to really go all in on agentic engineering.

I started using Cursor and it was my daily driver for a year or two, but I haven't looked back once in regret moving more towards a terminal focused workflow. (Not to mention the pricing of Cursor being absolutely abysmal as well, although often comped by employers)

59nadir 3 days ago | parent [-]

You do know they have an agent that runs in the terminal, right?

Mashimo 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I think intellij idea can git worktree for agents as well.

synergy20 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

long term claude code user here, never used cursor, however based on my limited experience, it seems codex can code better than claude code.

brianjking 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

I've been using Codex since before ChatGPT (the OG version) and CC since launch. For me personally - Claude Code with Opus/Sonnet generally has better taste, more personality in interactions, and is more willing to just do the work. Paired with skills, LSPs, linters, and hooks, it works very well. I think of the two like this:

Claude Code with Opus/Sonnet is the L7 senior engineer still gunning for promotion. Hasn't hit burnout, hasn't been ground down by terrible teams yet. Capable and willing to get their hands dirty. Codex (the harness) with GPT-5.4 or 5.3-codex is fantastic but terse. Some of the UX frustrates me. I want a visual task list. That said, Codex as a harness is phenomenal. Think of it as the senior EM / CTO-in-waiting who won't write new code without complaining and nitpicking for hours. But they'll thoroughly tear your code apart and produce a plan you can execute yourself or pass to Claude Code.

Both are great, and so is Factory Droid. Also worth checking out Compound Engineering from Every.to if you haven't.

pdyc 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

here is example of project i worked using codex, it took 10 iterations just to get github actions right https://github.com/newbeelearn/whisper.cpp . you can see the commits made by codex. Project was quite simple it needs to modify whisper to add support for transcribing voice with start/stop keys and copy the transcription to clipboard when stopped. That's it. It performs poorly as compare to CC which gets it right in one shot.

ok_dad 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There’s a reason it’s 10x cheaper. You’ll be paying the real price after the subsidies end.

manmal 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

There is no Max sub for enterprise AFAIK, are you using a private plan for work?

dirtbag__dad 3 days ago | parent [-]

Yes. This seemed to be more cost effective.

manmal 3 days ago | parent [-]

It is. Those plans are probably priced at marginal cost. Enterprise is 4x the cost or more.

thefourthchime 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The workflow that got me into Cloud Code was instructing it that whenever I create a new feature or bug, it should make a new git worktree. And then when I'm done, merge that back to main and delete the worktree. That enables me to open up three plus different Cloud Code's and work on three different things at the same time. As long as they're not directly overlapping, it works great.

muratsu 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I find it interesting that you are on the enterprise plan and are not default willing to pay more for more intelligence. Most people I know who are on the enterprise plan are wishing there existed a 2x intelligent model with 2x price.

Jcampuzano2 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

My company is going through the exact opposite, so it kinda depends on the company. We are actively encouraging our devs to NOT use Cursor because of how much more expensive it is compared to other tools we have from our calculations and they even considered dropping Cursor at contract renewal altogether due to their costs being higher than other tools.

athoscouto 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

2x intelligence != 2x results

most tasks I can do better and faster with composer 2

a fellow engineer reported a bug on a code I had written a few months back. I used his report as prompt for composer 2, gpt-5.4-high and claude-4.6-opus-max-thinking. composer found the issue spot on. gpt found another possible vector a couple of minutes later, but a way less likely one and one that would eventually self heal (thus not actually reproducing what we observed on production). claude had barely started when the other two had finished

also, i don't have a budget per se. but it is expected that i over deliver if i'm over spending

dakolli 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Because they are twice as stupid.

lordmoma 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

the only guy in my whose code has more problems than others is the one who who uses cursor, am I missing something?