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asdff 7 hours ago

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wredcoll 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why stop there? Because we decided to stop there. It's really that simple.

andrewstuart 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Seatbelts, speed limits, laws against property and personal crime, workplace safety regulations,

All government overreach, eh?

asdff 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Admittedly, I'm not arguing it any one way or another. I'm just presenting what I think is perhaps an interesting argument that highlights how the whole concept is somewhat arbitrary and ambiguous, resting more on ones personal moral positions towards a thing in particular than any real underlying logical justification shared across similar concepts.

sanswork 6 hours ago | parent [-]

It's not interesting at all, you're just choosing to ignore externalities.

amarcheschi 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Smoking affects surrounding people much more than the above

asdff 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Obesity does too. You are consuming sometimes twice as many calories as what is needed to survive. You put strain on medical facilities as well, and increase pooled costs of healthcare. Same social ills a smoker puts on you. Second hand smoke isn't really a thing anymore with indoor smoking bans.

sanswork 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Someone being obese doesn't impact my health directly. Second hand smoke impacts the kids/family of smokers. Second hand smoke impacts everyone walking past the front of an office building.

array_key_first 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don't actually know the math behind it but I would imagine that just smoking outside eliminates almost all the second hand smoke risk. The air outside is really really big, and the smoke is pretty small. Surely most of it misses you, even if you can smell it.

asdff 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Sure it does. Hospital is more busy than it needs to be and service therefore is diminished or you pay more for the same.

nineteen999 an hour ago | parent [-]

Also they overflow into your seat when you're on a plane flight. And the smell.

awesome_dude 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

People that consume more are carbon sinks...

How ludicrous is this argument going to get?

asdff 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Consuming more makes you a carbon sink? Quite the opposite.