| ▲ | culi 2 days ago | |
You're conflating lmarena ELO scores. Qwen actually has a higher ELO there. The top Pareto frontier open models are:
https://arena.ai/leaderboard/text?viewBy=plotWhat Gemma seems to have done is dominate the extreme cheap end of the market. Which IMO is probably the most important and overlooked segment | ||
| ▲ | coder543 2 days ago | parent [-] | |
That Pareto plot doesn't seem include the Gemma 4 models anywhere (not just not at the frontier), likely because pricing wasn't available when the chart was generated. At least, I can't find the Gemma 4 models there. So, not particularly relevant until it is updated for the models released today. | ||