Wait - not conversing with someone who thinks it's fine to post the N word is now classist and some kind of neuro-whateverthefuck bigotry?

No it's not, it's enforcing the norms of civil discourse. If they have some kind of actual underlying issue that causes this and it's legit beyond their control - then sure, go the extra mile and try to meet them where they are.

If on the other hand, it's some annoying person who likes ruffling feathers on purpose - I really think they ought to be ostracized for such behaviour.

▲

kstrauser 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Right?! I feel like we must be being trolled.

Short of something like the recent event with the chap with Tourette's saying awful things at the BAFTA awards, or Terry Davis with schizophrenia saying outlandish stuff, there aren't many scenarios where I'd be willing to give someone a pass on this.

If you have the ability to choose not to use the n-word, and you're not in a group that can use it self-referentially among your peers, and you use it anyway, then you're an asshole and I don't really care to hear what else you have to say. I feel pretty OK with that blanket assessment.

	▲	bluefirebrand 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> Short of something like the recent event with the chap with Tourette's saying awful things at the BAFTA awards, or Terry Davis with schizophrenia saying outlandish stuff, there aren't many scenarios where I'd be willing to give someone a pass on this. "There are some scenarios where you might want to give people a pass for reasons outside their control" is literally the only point I was trying to make So I guess we are in violent agreement? Edit: also, you will never actually discover which people you should give the benefit of the doubt if you categorically dismiss anyone who uses language you dislike

▲

bluefirebrand 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> No it's not, it's enforcing the norms of civil discourse

You don't see how that is exclusionary to people who struggle with norms?

I guess if you're born neurodivergent and can't handle social norms, you don't deserve any kind of grace. You can't ever contribute anything worthwhile or meaningful if you don't live up to all of society's polite norms. Good to know

Never change Hacker News

▲

kstrauser an hour ago | parent [-]

Oh behalf of the neurodivergent people surrounding me, 100% of whom successfully resist any temptation to say the n-word in my presence that they may ever feel, it's reprehensible that you're conflating racism and neurodiversity. I've never, not once, ever, heard someone blame their racism on ADHD.

	▲	bluefirebrand 4 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		You've never encountered someone who is pretty autistic and doesn't care about (or perhaps understand) the social consequences of using slurs? Or someone bipolar who gets kind of erratic and can say really out of character stuff when they are going through a manic episode? Or someone with tourettes that might say something that pops in their head unexpectedly? Sure thing about ADHD. You're right that people with the executive function disorder don't tend to blurt wild social faux pas. But there are also people with social function disorders who might. It doesn't necessarily mean they are terrible people

▲

guelo 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

[dead]