> I have become so disillusioned by some of the Hacker News crowd on here.

I feel the exact same way, but it's due to comments like yours that seem to excuse anything in the name of innovation. The goosebumps people feel are them just projecting what they think the future may look like based on what the snake-oil salesmen are peddling. How long have we been "just 2 years away from fully-automated self-driving" again?

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chasd00 14 hours ago | parent [-]

The difference with spacex is you can watch the rockets fly. You can also watch them actually build. That's where the goosebumps come from

one livecam view, there are many https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

this guy releases videos about once a week or so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_YDnrjf3G8&t=241s

this aerial photography channel documents bocachica every week or so too. Spacex is absolutely watched from every angle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnPcEFla3Dw

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raw_anon_1111 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Okay…

That has nothing to do with whether it is worth its valuation

	▲	chasd00 12 hours ago \| parent [-]
		what i'm saying is retail investors don't care about the valuation and will trade on what they see. So expect a lot of ups and down in the price because of retail investors.