He (Zuckerberg) doesn't. It tells us that they know that kids should not be using any of this technology as it is extremely addictive to kids who are none the wiser.

> What does that tell us?

It tells us three things:

1. Do not give a child access to iPads, social media or ChatGPT until they are old enough and are aware of their addictive nature.

2. Get them to read books as an alternative.

3. Being unable to restrict access to iPhones, ChatGPT to a child is a parenting skill issue and not the responsibility of a government to impose global parental controls on everyone for the purpose of surveillance.

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microtonal 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I was nodding along until the third point. As a parent it can be really hard to deny your kids to smartphone/tablets when other parents don’t care and all their friends play Roblox, use WhatsApp to communicate, or watch YouTube.

Your kid will be the odd one out, missing some shared culture, left out of conversation or meetups they arrange in IM, etc.

The government should absolutely forbid social media and addictive games to kids under 16, otherwise it’s very hard as a parent to escape these little addiction machines and you can only try to limit damage.

Of course, we have to find a way that is not damaging privacy at the same time.

(If you don’t have kids or have kids that are under ~10, you do probably not know what the pressure is like… yet.)

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tonyedgecombe 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Part of being a parent is saying no when your children pester you for something you know is bad for them.

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microtonal 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Did you read my comment? The issue is not being able to say 'no'. The issue is basically Sophie's choice: it's saying 'no' but then your kind misses out on a lot of social interactions with their peers vs. saying 'yes', but then your kid has a risk of getting addicted to this crap.

Missing out on social interactions weighs heavily on kids too.

Making everything harder is that even primary schools sometimes allow kids to play kids to play Roblox or use ChatGPT. For parents it's an uphill battle if even their role models think it's fine to play addictive games or make Tik Tok videos. We picked plenty of battles of not allowing videos of our kid to be uploaded to Youtube/Facebook, etc., luckily there are consent forms now, but you have to be constantly vigilant, because sometimes the consent forms are ignored or you get e-mails saying 'if you object, react by the end of the day'. If they play at friend's houses, they typically have access to the same games as well. Do you also want to say 'no' to playing at other kids' homes?

It has been shown scientifically that social media, certain games, etc. are bad and nearly as addictive as heroin. Maybe it's time to make a law to forbid use by kids, just like we have laws that you cannot sell alcohol, drugs, or cigarettes to kids?

And again, we should find a privacy-preserving way to do it.

	▲	zozbot234 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Missing out on social pathology is a good thing, not a bad thing. You should absolutely teach your kids to defy any peers or self-proclaimed authority figures who are expecting them to engage with that crap. It's called having healthy boundaries.

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SoftTalker 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well how do you tell your kid "no" when he asks for candy, when he can get as much as he wants at friend's houses, school, the library, or basically anywhere outside your house?

Edit: better exaple would be cigarettes, since that's something we as a society recognize is bad for kids and generally require proof of age if there is any doubt. Imagine if all your kid's friends smoked, and there were cigarette vending machines at school, and all you could do was say "no."

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leksak 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

3. When your net worth is measured in billions you have other opportunities in your parenting not necessarily afforded equally to every other parental unit.

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duskdozer 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You've fallen for the false framing. "companies have free reign to engineer as much addiction as they want" and "government enacts universal age verification surveillance" are not the only two options.