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bashtoni 8 hours ago

Helium supply issues are only going to make this worse.

I feel like for the first time in our lives we might have seen peak technology for the next few years. Everyone is going to have to make do instead of depending on ever increasing performance.

helsinkiandrew 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Helium supply issues are only going to make this worse.

I believe helium, although important constitutes a small percent of the cost of semiconductors, so its effect on price will be less severe. It will be more noticeable in other uses of helium though - party balloons could get very expensive etc.

genxy an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> although important constitutes a small percent of the cost of semiconductors, so its effect on price will be less severe

You should think about this some more.

viccis 21 minutes ago | parent [-]

You should elaborate your snarky rebuttal more.

leptons an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Considering helium is a finite resource on earth, it should be made illegal to put it in a party balloon.

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margalabargala 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

First time in your life?

Were you born after COVID and the 24 months of dire component shortages that followed?

est31 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This one might last longer. The AI race is on, and the US tries its best to make it as expensive for China as possible to participate in it. Every dollar China spends on GPUs they get at markup is one not spent on building navy ships.

If there is an escalation over Taiwan, then that will cause the loss of most of the world's high grade chip manufacturing capacity. TSMC is busy doing technology transfers into the US, but it is going to take time, those fabs won't have capacity for the whole world, and they still heavily depend on Taiwan based engineers if something goes wrong etc.

Just like with COVID you don't know how long this shortage will last.

nullbyte808 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Hypothetically what would happen if China took over Tawain and TSMC?

gzread 3 hours ago | parent [-]

All modern technology becomes unobtainable.

genxy an hour ago | parent [-]

We are going to have that now in a couple of months regardless. So it won't matter if Taiwan's manufacturing base gets disrupted, the hardware will have already effectively stopped.

paulddraper 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

We couldn’t even make cars after COVID.

pixl97 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I expect my 5 year old desktop will last a lot longer, but start worrying about the bathtub curve.

TechSquidTV 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We stood still on Intel 14nm for YEARS, then a few years of decent progress, and now this. Moore's law is taking a beating.

leptons an hour ago | parent [-]

Moore's law only really works when at least part of the world is functioning under practically ideal conditions. Right now that's far from what's happening.

stackghost 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>I feel like for the first time in our lives we might have seen peak technology for the next few years.

This happened for a while with CPUs in 2004 or 2005, IIRC. At the end of the Pentium 4 era clock speeds and TDPs were so high that we hit a wall. Nobody was pushing past 4 GHz even with watercooling (I tried).

Dual-core processors were neither widely available nor mainstream yet, and those that were available had much lower clock speeds. It definitely felt like we hit a lull, or a stagnation, in those years. It picked back up with a fury when Intel released the Core 2 Duo in 2006, though.

andrewstuart2 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Finally, good efficient code is going to get its moment to shine! Which will totally happen because it's not like 80% of the industry is vibe coding everything, right?

attentive 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

just do vibe performance optimization (I am not even kidding)

therealdrag0 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Yep I’ve seen multiple instances of this so far.

leptons an hour ago | parent [-]

Yeah, I got the AI to convert some code that ran at 30fps in Javascript to C, and it resulted in a program that generated 1 frame every 20 seconds. Then I told it to optimize it, and now it's running at 1 fps. After going back and forth with the AI for hours, it never got faster than 1 fps. I guess I'm "doing it wrong" as the hypesters like to tell me.

lelanthran 36 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Yeah, I got the AI to convert some code that ran at 30fps in Javascript to C, and it resulted in a program that generated 1 frame every 20 seconds. Then I told it to optimize it, and now it's running at 1 fps. After going back and forth with the AI for hours, it never got faster than 1 fps. I guess I'm "doing it wrong" as the hypesters like to tell me.

Remove the "I actually only want a slideshow" instruction from your prompt :-)

hombre_fatal 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Vibe coding might be a positive here since there's no need to optimize for DX over perf when the clanker is the one reading/writing code.

jaggederest 5 hours ago | parent [-]

This is my theory: we're going to see a lot of languages with straightforward and obvious semantics, high guard rails, terrible dx, and great memory allocation and performance behavior out of the box. Assembler or worse, but with extremely strong typing bolted on in a way that no human would ever tolerate, basically, something in that vibe.

Grosvenor 5 hours ago | parent [-]

So Pascal and Delphi are coming back? I'm actually cool with that.

jaggederest 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yeah actually I worked with Pascal early in my career and that's kinda the vibes I am thinking about, with maybe a stronger type system more ada-esque though (composite, partial and range-and-domain types, all that jazz)

dartharva 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Honestly speaking, it has started to look like AI coders could actually do a better job than 80% of app developers in writing efficient apps just by being set to adhere to best-practice programming conventions by default (notwithstanding their general tendency of trying to be too clever instead of writing clear and straightforward code).

Dylan16807 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Ultra clean rooms with massive air handling systems can't recapture all their helium?

Or is this just a temporary thing based on where processing is located?

AngryData 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Helium is almost all captured from gas wells by cryogenically liquefying the nitrogen out of it. I guess you could do technically do that with the fab's air but it is a LOT of volume of air to liquefy and likely costs more than even inflated helium prices.

Most helium from most wells is simply vented because it is expensive to separate even with its relatively high concentration, and I imagine even the best case scenario for capturing it from a fab has abysmal concentration of helium. But because most of it is vented it also means if the capital is put down to build more helium separators on gas wells it wouldn't take long to increase supply. Short term for a year or two it can be a problem, but beyond that it is simply a cost versus demand issue. There is neither a technological nor source limitation, it is a pure capital investment limitation.

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seany an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The fact that all helium escapes the atmosphere, and is essentially impossible to produce makes things a bit more complicated.

rcxdude 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Helium is actually pretty hard to keep ahold of, being a very light and small noble gas. It can diffuse through a surprising amount of materials, flow through far smaller cracks than you would expect, and is quite hard to filter out of a mixture of gases.

jaggederest 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Also superfluid helium (a big chunk of helium used for refrigeration like in e.g. the LHC) has the weird property of flowing the same speed through a tiny hole as a large one and coating everything with a molecular coating. Superfluid helium is basically a bose einstein condensate but macro-scale, totally counterintuitive. Essentially a thermal superconductor. Zero viscosity.

hmry 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

AFAIK they recapture most, but recapturing all simply isn't possible / financially feasible. And they use a lot of helium, so even if they capture most of it, the losses are still higher than the currently available supply.

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