I wonder why almost no one in these GrapheneOS praise topic mentions that you won't be able to pay with your phone, and often even bank apps refuse to install on it - it was a deal breaker for me personally, and now I'm back under Google umbrella :<

Limitations are on the website - https://grapheneos.org/articles/ I don't care about google pay/wallet or android auto. My credit union's app does work fine, but even if it didn't, I'd still use GOS. It's great.

Not every banking app is that way. Mine worked.

I also dont think everything needs to be an app.

I gets mentioned on every GrapheneOS thread I've read.

Fair point, but how much extra effort is it to put a credit card between your phone? I'm still under the Google umbrella as well, but this would be my first issue solved.

You've got a lot of people contesting the "often" part but I'll also add that there's a project tracking banking apps that do work: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa...

My tiny local credit union app isn't on there, but it worked fine. I miss wallet a bit and it's a shame that there are important apps which still refuse to act reasonably, but I don't think it's really that bad.

For many GrapheneOS users, this class of annoyances is an acceptable concession.

I guess I'm so paranoid that not only do I run GrapheneOS, I've never had nor wanted banking nor payment apps on my phone. Having ALL my money be accessible from something so easily lost, stolen, or seized would be a constant source of stress for me. There's (hopefully) a lot of security around accessing it, but sometimes the only winning move is not to play.

this is the main point of discussion under every grapheneos thread though...

also my bank apps install, but yes, no tap to pay

Paying with your phone just seems like one of those separation of concerns problem. I'm sure you have backup forms, and cash, etc, but there's something about not having to worry about the multinefarious capabilities of my phone if it's not in my posession.

Banks will readily send you a completely separate computer just to perform payment transactions with. It's very thin, and you can even get a phone case that holds it as well. There's really little reason to bundle all that functionality up into one device, especially if a consequence is that doing so requires you to run surveillance industry malware.

Yup, Chase Bank app will not load at all. I think its a "security" feature that it wont load on rooted phones lol

Get a case that holds your credit card, good grief lol

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