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runarberg 3 hours ago

I think that is the point, but whether this mission will actually do that is rather unconvincing.

After (and if) Artemis III lands on the moon and brings home the astronauts there seems to be very little planned on how we actually get to the moon base which NASA is claiming this will lead to, let alone the manned Mars mission that is also supposed to follow.

In other words, I think NASA is greatly exaggerating, and possibly lying, about the utility of this mission.

JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> there seems to be very little planned on how we actually get to the moon base

There is a lot of research going into in situ construction methods and even nuclear power plants on the moon [1]. (Which would be necessary to bootstrap eventual indigenous panel production [2].)

To me it’s encouraging to see this fundamental work being attacked than an endless sea of renderings. The reason you aren’t seeing heavy detailing, despite construction slated to begin with Artemis V, is we’re waiting for the launch vehicles. (“Any exploration program which "just happens" to include a new launch vehicle is, de facto, a launch vehicle program” [3].)

[1] https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-department-of-energy-...

[2] https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00971-x

[3] https://blog.matt-rickard.com/p/akins-laws-of-spacecraft-des...

runarberg an hour ago | parent [-]

> This effort ensures the United States leads the world in space exploration and commerce.

> “History shows that when American science and innovation come together, from the Manhattan Project to the Apollo Mission, our nation leads the world to reach new frontiers once thought impossible,”

> Under President Trump’s national space policy

I smell politics and American exceptionalism, not science. There are a lot of could-bes in these statements as well, I have serious suspicions that these goals are not serious engineering. I am 99.999% certain that NASA will not build a nuclear reactor on the moon this decade, nor even the next decade. NASA is not giving me any signals they are capable of that.

JumpCrisscross 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

> I am 99.999% certain that NASA will not build a nuclear reactor on the moon this decade, nor even the next decade. NASA is not giving me any signals they are capable of that

You don’t think NASA and the DOE, together with Lockheed and Westinghouse, can build a reactor? Why? The major technical issues were largely de-risked with the 2022 solicitation.

shash 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They’ve changed it so III isn’t landing. That will be IV apparently.