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storus 4 hours ago

EVs are still a bit underwhelming wrt range - ideally either 450miles/700km or 5 minute 20->80% recharge at an acceptable price (35k EUR) should be the norm. For cities it doesn't matter but for longer vacation trips it's a must, nobody wants to waste 3 hours on a 1100km trip recharging. Chinese EVs might be able to deliver it at this price point (BYD) but EU adds additional (up to) 45% in extra fees to penalize Chinese EV makers and to prevent collapse of EU car makers.

Gud 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Honest question, how often do you drive 1100km?

storus 3 hours ago | parent [-]

On average once a month? Going skiing/biking in the mountains for the weekend or to some sea/lake with a boat.

878654Tom 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Once a month you embark on a 10 hour drive to spend a weekend skiing/boating and then returning with another 10 hour drive?

So for 2 days of doing such activity you'll spent 20 hours in a car?

Gud 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That’s a very unusual usage pattern.

storus an hour ago | parent [-]

I assume that's the comment you wanted to make all the time.

toomuchtodo 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

1 in 4 vehicles sold globally last year were EVs, and they are >50% of the monthly sales in China, the largest market in the world. EVs are mostly solved, even though they will continue to rapidly improve, both range and charging infrastructure. Norway is at ~100% monthly EV sales, other countries will get there eventually.

Importantly, we should expect to go faster as EV sales reach a point where combustion sales have declined to a level where they can no longer support combustion vehicle manufacturers as a going concern. Peak global combustion auto sales occurred in 2017.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47459145 (citations)

storus 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The trend is clear but right now they aren't able to replace ICE cars due to what I mentioned above. Either they lack range/recharging convenience or they don't but are too expensive. They need a few more years of scaling or EU to stop penalizing Chinese EVs.

nomel 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That 25% is including ICE. From the reference:

> “Electric cars” include battery-electric and plug-in hybrid vehicles

toomuchtodo 3 hours ago | parent [-]

ICE =! NEVs (which includes BEVs and PHEVs, with BEVs still the majority). If folks want to buy PHEVs until BEVs steamroll them, whatevs, the BEV cost decline and uptake curves speak for themselves. Combustion isn't getting cheaper anytime soon.

https://cleantechnica.com/2026/02/03/global-ev-sales-leaders...

https://www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2025

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-car-sales-battery-p...

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/car-sales