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Incipient 2 days ago

The main thing I don't like is type-ability. Even now I type in 192.168.1.14 to connect to my mates computer to play satisfactory. No way in heck am I trying in an ip6!

Dylan16807 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

No way in heck are you typing fd00::d or similar? Why not?

dpc_01234 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I wish I had your problems. :D . Problems that are really only a mild inconvenience, and can be solved with a single line in hosts file.

My biggest and possibly only problem preventing me from going IPV6-only is that Github doesn't support it, and there's just too much darn software I need to needs Github. (Yes, I know NAT64 exist - it's just extra complexity for something that is not even my problem in the first place).

password4321 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I recently learned I can skip middle .0's in IPv4, no more 192.168's for me it's 10[.0.0]'s going forward.

bpavuk 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

how about just having zeroconf on and using .local domains?

vel0city 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why not just type in "mates-pc" and have functional mDNS and not have to memorize a bunch of numbers?

Why not just expect your OS's DNS setup to actually just work?

IshKebab 2 days ago | parent [-]

Because mDNS usually doesn't work and just expecting it to work doesn't change that?

guntars 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Skill issue. Works fine for me in a mixed Linux/Apple environment.

IshKebab 2 days ago | parent [-]

I didn't write any mDNS software. Blame those guys.

guntars 2 days ago | parent [-]

Well I mean “those guys” did a good job and the network administrator might need to do some debugging.

zadikian 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I never have to debug why my dhcp server isn't handing out ipv4 addresses or deal with conflicts, but if I did, it'd break mdns too. mdns is an extra moving part to deal with.

guntars 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

By debugging I mean just checking if you have not blocked broadcast packets at the firewall or some similar misconfiguration. I doubt it’s actual bugs when it doesn’t work. On your second point, it’s actually more resilient than DHCP because it works with IPv6 too.

zadikian 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Idk, just checked my LAN-connected Mac's arp tables now and none of the hostnames are there, even after I ping the multicast. Haven't messed with any settings.

vel0city 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I've had numerous issues with dhcp servers over the years and clients not understanding their responses. Acting like they never have issues is just burying your head in the sand. mDNS often works just fine on most common OSes, if you don't explicitly block them.

zadikian 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Default home router out of the box is not going to have DHCP issues. Custom config or bigger network, sure, I've dealt with it too.

IshKebab 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

What network administrator?

vel0city 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> Why not just expect your OS's DNS setup to actually just work?

Maybe use an OS or DNS stack that isn't terrible?

Incredible asking for a not-broken DNS and IP stack is just too far out there when it seems most of the closed source OS platforms seem to manage just fine.

Or let me guess, you've specifically configured it to not "leak" such useful information?

patmorgan23 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Hmmmm maybe someone should come up with a SYSTEM to organize NAMES for ips, maybe using hierarchical DOMAINs.... Oh wait.

matthews3 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

We could abbreviate that to SND!

gertop 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Your bad attempt at humor makes it quite clear that you've never dealt with network engineering or administrating to any extent.

Admitting that ipv6 has some downsides, however minor they may seem to you, won't hurt your quest to render ipv4 obsolete.

In fact being less insufferable is how you win people to your causes, not by laughing at their genuine albeit minor issues.

fasterik 2 days ago | parent [-]

They were making a legitimate point a humorous way. The problem of manually typing in IP addresses has been solved by DNS for over 50 years.

ryandrake 2 days ago | parent [-]

I haven't had to type an IP address to access something on my home network for at least a decade, except for (occasionally) my xxx.1 router.