| ▲ | guywithahat 5 hours ago |
| It's incredible how social media addiction warps peoples minds. The US is not only the EU's largest trade partner but they're considerably freer and richer than the EU, showing a path forward for the continent. The US is not a "threat for their way of living" lol, especially when Europe is currently fighting a war in Ukraine and struggling to handle mass middle-east immigration |
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| ▲ | vrganj 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Guess where the midlle-east mass migration comes from? Surely not from the US bombing the everliving shit out of folks living there and leaving us to deal with the fallout? The only thing the US shows Europe is a cautionary tale of social decay and the consequences of letting Capital run their society. |
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| ▲ | neutronicus 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I mean, y'all gotta own the mess in the middle east too. That's far from a US solo production. | | |
| ▲ | vrganj 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | The latest mess is all on the Americans. But yes, the French were also not without blame. | | |
| ▲ | orwin 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | When? The French are to blame for Algeria an most of Africa, but Lebanon is the ex-french colony that suffered the less from French rule, and used to be a perfect example of multiculturalism before a nearby rogue state started putting their greasy hands everywhere. Unless you talk about Lybia, but that's not ME (and yes, 80% of the French) |
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| ▲ | wiseowise 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > they're considerably freer and richer than the EU Freer to bend over for ICE thugs, or is there some other definition of freedom that you’ve meant? > especially when Europe is currently fighting a war in Ukraine Ukraine is fighting war in Ukraine with financial support of Europe. Big difference. > and struggling to handle mass middle-east immigration Caused by US bombing. |
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| ▲ | beloch 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| A country can be your largest trading partner and single biggest threat to sovereignty at the same time. Just ask Canadians. I also take issue with the claim that Americans are freer or richer. The Iranian adventure, even were it to end immediately, has taken socialized medicine off the table for another generation of Americans, leaving typical Americans a lot poorer than salaries suggest. A ground invasion could easily bankrupt the U.S.. Meanwhile, Trump is trying to operate as a pre-Magna Carta king and the courts charged with stopping him are rapidly crumbling under pressure. This is a serious backslide into authoritarianism. |
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| ▲ | tharmas 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | The irony about tRump is he sometimes says the quiet part out loud. He is a pathological liar yet at the same time he speaks truth. He revealed the USA's ruling Elite's desire to make Canada a vassal state. Arguably, the Canadian Elite did it when Brian Mulroney, (he was originally against it himself but the Business lobby told him otherwise: he dutifully complied with his donors), pushed and signed the free trade agreement: "I'm rolling the dice!". He was persuaded to put the decision to an election first. He won the majority of seats, but not the popular vote. He signed it anyway. Now, Canada finds itself in the position that his opposition warned about: that putting your eggs in one basket was taking a big risk that US wasn't going to be ruled by a Fascist Dictator. But thanks to the Fascist Dictator Canadians have once again woken up to the folly of tying yourself so closely to a giant who goes rogue. The Republican Party should be deeply ashamed of themselves for kowtowing to tRump. Mind you, there is plenty of things the Republican Party should be ashamed about - they helped create the situation that would make the election of tRump possible - with their poverty inducing policies. The Republican Party is as loathsome as the Nazi Party. And then there is the feckless Democrats. Absolutely useless. |
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| ▲ | ginko 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Who do you think caused that mass immigration? |
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| ▲ | energy123 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Most recently Russia and Iran's Hezbollah in Syria, and Yemen's civil war involving Iran's Houthis and Egypt/Saudi Arabia. The US was involved in the Syrian civil war but not responsible for most of the civilian destruction. People outside the region have this childish understanding of the ME where Iraq is the only thing that happened (conveniently also forgetting the much more brutal Iran-Iraq war). | | |
| ▲ | guywithahat 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | And to further your point mass immigration into Europe isn't just recent; it's been happening for decades. For a while the Islamic state was encouraging attacks in Europe, and hundreds of people were killed by jihadists running cars through Christmas parades and similar events which peaked ~2016 and 2017. I think the largest was an attack in Nice, France on Bastille day killing 86 and injuring hundreds (https://grokipedia.com/page/2016_Nice_truck_attack) and another famous one I can think of was the christmas market attack in Berlin, killing 12 and injuring 56 (https://grokipedia.com/page/2016_Berlin_truck_attack). These were the result of economic immigration, unrelated to anything specific the US had done. | | |
| ▲ | vrganj 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Where did the Islamic State come from? The power vacuum after the US messed up Iraq and Syria. Every single wave of mass migration towards Europe is the direct result of the US choosing to bomb the Middle East. That's also part of why this time around, everybody's quite this annoyed at America. Also please, use serious sources. |
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| ▲ | pjc50 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > It's incredible how social media addiction warps peoples minds The most prominent victim of this appears to be the US president himself. |
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| ▲ | Insanity 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Have you missed the events of the past year under Trump? With literal claims of taking over EU territory? I know that Trump is the equivalent of a hallucinating LLM, but you can’t just ignore his words whenever convenient. |
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| ▲ | ragall 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > considerably freer and richer than the EU Cope harder. The US doesn't offer a single example of being better than the EU. |
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| ▲ | GJim 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It's always better to back up ones arguments with facts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index The USA really hasn't been doing well lately. | | |
| ▲ | ragall 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's just a small part of it. EU has a better quality of life, better food, better housing, better public infrastructure. |
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| ▲ | oceanplexian 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | At least the US still has energy infrastructure, while the EU is forced to financially support Dictators in Tehran and Moscow to keep their economy from collapsing. | | |
| ▲ | vrganj 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | This article is literally about Europe rapidly building out its sovereign energy infrastructure? |
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