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johnisgood 2 hours ago

All of them are really, REALLY bad.

surajrmal an hour ago | parent [-]

Bad by whose definition? They work really well in my experience. They aren't perfect but the amount of hand holding has gone down dramatically and you can fix any glaring problems with a code review at the end. I work on a multimillion line code base which does not use any popular frameworks and it does a great job. I may be benefiting from the fact that the codebase is open source and all models have obviously been trained on it.

bdhtu 28 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It takes 10 seconds for Gemini CLI to load. 10 seconds to show an input field. This is for a CLI program.

For comparison, it takes me less time to load Chrome and go to gemini.google.com.

causal 18 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> They work really well in my experience.

Yeahhh strong disagree there, I find Codex and CC to be buggy as hell. Desktop CC is very bad and web version is nigh unusable.

oblio an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

At least Gemini and Claude constantly break down with scrolling in various Linux terminals, something which was solved by countless TUIs decades ago.

I think a lot of the people prasing Claude & co are on Macs.

johnisgood an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Most of their issues have been solved a long time ago, with 1000x less code. It is depressing at this point. I really had no clue IT was in the shitters this much. I knew it was theatrical but I had no idea that it was by this much.

geodel 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

All these AI tools teams have most valid excuse "We are just a bunch of people who only know Javascript/typescript/NodeJS. Please bear with us while we resolve 10,000 open issues."

causal 17 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm on a mac! And I still find bugs on a regular basis...

samusiam an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I haven't seen the scrolling glitch in months, where previously it was happening multiple times a day. Also haven't seen anyone complain about it in quite some time. Pretty sure they have resolved that.