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raddan 2 hours ago

How does panel shut-off work for emergency responders? Where I live, a solar energy system is required to have a shut off switch. For example, my system has a big red handle mounted on the side of the house. This is important not just for first responders like firefighters but also for linemen repairing downed lines, which are pretty common where I live (a mountainous rural area).

Given that these store-bought panels are being plugged into house AC, it follows that they have built-in inverters. Many grid-tied inverters are “grid follow”, meaning that they adjust themselves to grid frequency/phase. So, just speculating here… maybe the inverter senses when the mains go down and turns itself off? I would love to know from an EE what is actually happening wrt safety.

cillian64 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It'll be the same as larger inverters for roof-top solar - they are constantly monitoring the mains cycle and will shut off if the voltage (or probably frequency too?) goes out of range, let alone drops out entirely. The relevant standards in the UK are G98/G99.

raphaelj 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

These inverters have to switch off if they cannot detect a grid signal, or if the grid frequency/voltage goes out of the safe range.

Same legislation as the non-plug&play inverters.

mnmalst 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Does this mean if you have a main grid power outage the solar panel cannot provide your house with power either?

raphaelj 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Mine (Ecoflow Stream Ultra) has two 1200W regular sockets I can use while the grid down.

Confiks an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not necessarily, but most inverters (in Europe, at least) aren't designed to function without a grid anyway.

Some models of inverter brands like Victron (which isn't very common outside its niche of self-sufficiency because they are rather expensive and sometimes complex) can form a micro-grid. They have the option of a special circuit breaker [1] that decouples the inverter from the grid if the grid is detected to be down, which allows their use during a power outage.

[1] https://www.victronenergy.com/accessories/anti-islanding-box...

raddan 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes.