| ▲ | natas 2 days ago |
| OpenAI is a few years behind Anthropic, and it's unlikely they'll catch up at this point. |
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| ▲ | mrklol 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Where exactly are they behind? |
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| ▲ | PunchTornado 2 days ago | parent [-] | | everywhere, but most important in ethics | | |
| ▲ | serf 2 days ago | parent [-] | | your ethics. let's not forget that these major LLMs are all the children of corporate hyper-piracy en masse, none of them are ethical even in origin unless you're talking about the pre-product company charter kind of ethics, like google . | | |
| ▲ | PunchTornado 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | You can't put anthropic and openai in the same basket regarding ethics. One accepted Department of War's conditions and the other not. | | |
| ▲ | boppo1 a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Last I heard, claude was the model powering maven when it bombed that school. Most aren't up-to date on that because anthropic launders their culpability through palanntir. Anthropic is better at optics not ethics. | | |
| ▲ | PunchTornado 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | No matter what you say, you know yourself the truth that the DoW wanted to go over the red lines of anthropic and they said no, while openai said yes. This is as clear as day to everyone and you are just lying yourself to believe something else. |
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| ▲ | Teelo 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | How is anthropic training their models? Surely they're not using other people's work without their permission, right? |
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| ▲ | Agentus 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | What origins of ethics? You use the term piracy, which potentially hints at ur biases. American IP laws aren’t universal, and last I checked neither is it popular in Silicon Valley. Institutions surrounding dealing with IP Piracy is an American strong arm attempt to own the unownable and to use Russel conjugates to make the flagrant attempt seem just. |
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| ▲ | muskstinks 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm following this very closly and i'm stunned. Any infos on why you think they are behind antrophic in years? I do see less quality from reasoning at chatgpt compared to Gemini but otherwise i'm not seeing a year or years gap. |
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| ▲ | baq 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They’re about even in general, but for me OpenAI is slightly or significantly ahead in the areas I care about the most. E.g. claude code is a backend slop cannon if you don’t tell codex/gemini to review the outputs. |
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| ▲ | empath75 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Anthropic is _unquestionably_ ahead product wise because of their agentic coding tools, but they are not _years_ ahead. In particular, their advantage is in the harness, which is not hard to replicate! |
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| ▲ | rafaelmn 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Lol if CC is the advantage that's the larges indictment of AI coding there is. Don't get me wrong CC gives me good results, but I very much doubt their tooling is great, they just spew tokens at the model and the model is quite good at making sense of it and following through. I suspect they have better RL setup for coding that makes their models better at coding than GPT/Gemini in practice. | |
| ▲ | 0xy 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's not just the CC harness. The models are fundamentally better. |
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