I have to be honest that I'm confused by the comment, too. Including the edit about how being out of work would be traumatic, as if losing a job was unique to the United States.

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niek_pas 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

My point was that going from (let's say) 'employed, productive member of the workforce, with social relationships at work' to 'sitting at home collecting unemployment' with no transition, no coaching, in the scope of 5 minutes seems like a traumatic rupture.

(I'm not saying I _know_ better, just how I think I would _experience_ such a thing.)

Losing a job happens everywhere, but there are different ways to handle it, I guess.

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Aurornis 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

I've been laid off. It's not fun and there a lot of emotions to process at first.

Let me tell you, though. All of the gestures that come from the company doing the layoff like coaching services or transition resources felt pretty useless. They were actually trying, but everything in it seemed more like it was to soothe their conscience than to help me out.

When other people get laid off I recommend they try not to put a lot of expectations into any transition services provided by their ex-employer because your time is better invested in your own job search.

	▲	bombcar 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		The best "layoff" support I've received has been early notice (e.g., you're laid off at the end of next month, but we give fuck-all cares if you even bother coming in anymore, feel free to) and personal support from managers/those remaining behind. Anything an employer can do at scale can be reduced to cash, and cash is king.

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Shocka1 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Generally losing your well paying tech job in the US is terrible and it is definitely traumatic for people. I've fortunately never been part of one, but at my first real career job at a well known tech company I watched co-workers eliminated like this. Not only was it traumatic for them, it was traumatic for our team as well. They received very nice severance packages, but they still had to find another job within 6 months so they could keep the lights on in their homes. It was a great learning lesson for me. All my career moves after that have been preemptive and from the standpoint that I'm on offense at all times. Never feeling stagnant in a position, keeping options open, etc...

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simsla 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Where I live, your employer basically has to give you notice (weeks to months, depending where you live). It's common for that notice period to turn into "garden leave" though, i.e. get paid but don't show up.

Mass layoffs, or RIFs, operate under slightly different rules, but I still saw a stark difference between US and EU employees when I went through one at a different corp.

US accounts were deactivated same day. EU employees were given until end of week to look over the proposed terms etc.

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draw_down 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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