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michael1999 a day ago

That is a misleading headline. Italy refused landing to flights outside normal operations without a prior request. We don't know how the Italian government would respond to a request if the US took the time to make one.

Waterluvian a day ago | parent | next [-]

> […]if the US took the time to make one.

Is it normal for the Americans to behave this way or is this new procedure?

atakan_gurkan a day ago | parent [-]

I really wish that people would distinguish between "Americans" and "the US government" (and between the latter and the Trump regime) more clearly. I am Turkish and when I am associated with the behaviour of the Turkish government (which happens when I am abroad), it is very unpleasant. I lived in the States for 7 years and have many friends there. I am guessing they would similarly find this association unpleasant.

Waterluvian 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It should feel unpleasant. I don't believe Americans are a victim of an oppressive regime and I don't think they get to abdicate responsibility for their government's actions by asking the world to make that distinction. Because I certainly don't get a choice of who I trade with and who is threatening my country's existence.

To put simply: the best peaceful tool I feel that I have to protect my children's future is to maximize the embarassment, shame, and personal disgust of those who the U.S Government represents. Those who have a vote and a voice in their town square. Those who can protest or strike. The goal is to make current levels of domestic inaction intolerable. I'm delighted by the No Kings turnout. That's a good start.

If we get to a point where Americans by and large do not believe they have any power over their democracy, and that they're helpless victims of an oppressive government, I think my perspective would change in the same way I don't think Iranians are to be expected to deal with their government.

I should be clear because this is a very pointed perspective: I don't dislike Americans. As a Canadian it's inevitable that I am close friends with countless Americans. There's a number of them in my very close family. But I believe they bear responsibility for their government because I believe the U.S. is, for now, still a democracy.

cmxch 20 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> the best peaceful tool I feel that I have to protect my children's future is to maximize the embarassment, shame, and personal disgust of those who the U.S Government represents. Those who have a vote and a voice in their town square. Those who can protest or strike. The goal is to make current levels of domestic inaction intolerable. I'm delighted by the No Kings turnout. That's a good start.

And I’ll vote for the people that prevent and/or limit the damage you wish to cause to the current administration and its supporters. Especially if it means using privacy laws to prevent doxxing of such individuals or any adverse action against them.

donkeybeer 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Who said anything about doxxing? It's no surprise you support that administration given you make up fake threats in your head like this.

cindyllm 13 hours ago | parent [-]

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donkeybeer 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>And I’ll vote for the people that prevent and/or limit the damage you wish to cause to the current administration and its supporters.

Be honest and say you wish to abolish the First Amendment instead of this weaselly nonsense.

ratrace 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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patrickmcnamara 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Americans should stop voting in governments like this then.

swat535 20 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Majority of them didn't want this government, but US elections can be gamed.

patrickmcnamara 19 hours ago | parent [-]

The majority could have voted for a different government if they didn't want this one. I could understand this argument somewhere else, but the US has fair elections and voted for this twice.

gulfofamerica 19 hours ago | parent [-]

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expedition32 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In fairness America doesn't work like Europe. The president can just start a war without asking for permission from the people nor parliament.

LtWorf 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Apparently Usians living in sweden have been complaining that swedes assume they aren't trump supporters.

edit: also it's the USA doctrine to oppress people whose government you dislike in the hope that they might rebel, so in their case it's completely fair.

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foragerdev 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So, EU members will keep preaching peace and humanity and still keep doing contrary to that.

izacus 20 hours ago | parent [-]

Which ones were that?

foragerdev 20 hours ago | parent [-]

History is full of such incidents. Isn't US have been using EU air space to conduct strikes in other countries? Is not EU kept silence for the election stolen in Pakistan? Is EU kept silence when hundreds of people were killed by Pakistan Army in 2024 and 2025? Is not EU kept Pakistan 2024 election report unpublished for 2 years? Why do EU support Pakistan Army's illegal rule? Oh, and Isn't NATO has been killing in Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan?