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marcosdumay 12 hours ago

When the contract is purposefully obtuse and hard to understand, that should be a valid legal defense.

When it's huge, falls upon people that can't justify a lawyer, and keeps changing all the time, one shouldn't even need to claim it. It should be automatically invalid.

SoftTalker 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Contract language is obtuse and hard to understand precisely because of previous challenges over meaning. There are stock phrasings and clauses in contracts that have established (by precident) legal meanings. That's why contracts seem to be walls of boilerplate.

If you just wrote them in "plain language" there would be far too much ambiguity and arguing over what was really meant or implied or agreed to.

voxic11 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Copilot is for entertainment purposes only. It can make mistakes, and it may not work as intended. Don’t rely on Copilot for important advice. Use Copilot at your own risk.

Seems pretty clear to me, do you really think people need a lawyer to understand that?

andy81 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The only thing "clear" about that License agreement is it contradicts all their other marketing about Copilot.

So either that document is fraudulent or everyone else at Microsoft is committing fraud daily.

Examples from the first search result: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/microsoft-365-copi...

Support page with ~25 tutorials provided by Microsoft about how to "Create a document with Copilot" or "Create a branded presentation from a file" or "Start a Loop workspace from a Teams meeting".

Do you actually believe that creating branded presentations (from Microsoft's own examples) is something people do for "entertainment purposes"?

NetMageSCW 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Did Microsoft force you to follow the tutorials and use CoPilot for business?

adgjlsfhk1 7 hours ago | parent [-]

By advertising Copilot as capable of doing something they are guaranteeing the product is capable of it.

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jon-wood 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If Copilot is for entertainment purposes only then why is https://office.com all about how you can use Copilot, and closes with the small print "Copilot Chat in the Microsoft 365 Copilot app is available for Microsoft 365 Enterprise, Academic, SMB, Personal and Family subscribers with a work, education, or personal account."

Why would they include a product for entertainment purposes only in the product they sell to large companies for doing work?

WesolyKubeczek 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Microsoft is pivoting to become an entertainment company, the Copilot being the final form of what Microsoft Bob has always wanted to become.

Sharlin 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sure, if you make that clear in all of your marketing rather than lying your ass off and then trying the "lol we didn’t really mean it" defense.

marcosdumay 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There are 1698 words before that phrase.

Granted that this one document has a surprisingly clear language, but no, it's still not reasonable. Also, it was changed less than 6 months ago.

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lazide 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If it’s in a locked cabinet in the downstairs bathroom with the ‘out of order’ sign on the door, guarded by a leopard?

recursive 12 hours ago | parent [-]

A disused lavatory?

lazide 11 hours ago | parent [-]

We can neither confirm nor deny on advice of counsel.