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jessewmc 4 hours ago

As an aside, do you have any suggestions for "state of the art" reading on safety culture?

colechristensen an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Learn about failures.

Inviting Disaster: Lessons From the Edge of Technology was one of the texts for an aerospace class I didn't take but friends did, but honestly you can just read the book.

There are lots of frameworks for teaching safety and programs for compliance and such but they are far too easy to cargo cult if you don't appreciate safety and the need for safety culture and UNDERSTAND what failures look like.

And when you really understand the need and how significant failures happened... "state of the art" tools and practices take a back seat, they can be useful but they're just tools. What you need is people developing the appropriate vision, and with that the right things tend to follow.

FrustratedMonky 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I just had a conversation about engineers not understanding the need for grounding.

I'm wondering if every generation has to relearn the basics for themselves through experience.

Each generation has to make the same mistakes. Because book learning doesn't seem to do it for some things.

trey-jones 41 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Sure. Even a history of safety success contributes to this. We haven't had an accident in 3000 days, what was dangerous about this job again? Also what's this stupid policy for anyway, I've never seen anybody even come close to (non-dangerous-sounding fate) while working here.

But probably the policy is in place because it used to happen before the policy was in place. It's just not obvious to people who have never seen the consequences before.

randomNumber7 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Most people are just resistant to learning (without pain).

cindyllm 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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