| ▲ | pjmlp 9 hours ago | |||||||||||||
> I had over 20 managers across my 18 years at Amazon. They were mostly good managers, and some of them were great. But not one of them ever came to me unprompted and said, “Let’s talk about your career growth.” Maybe not at Amazon, but surely at almost every big corporation I worked on, there were even milestones, and career matrixes. | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | raw_anon_1111 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||
Amazon has a career matrix (former employer). But they didn’t proactively help me with my career - not that I cared. My entire goal was to survive my 4 year initial offer and get the f** out of dodge. I was 46 when I was hired. | ||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | tacostakohashi 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
For the most part, "career matrixes", "development plans", and the like are just generic internal marketing to placate people and create the illusion that managers / the company care about their career development, and they don't have to do anything. To a lesser extent performance reviews / ratings are the same - "you're doing great, keep it up!" - they don't really tell you what you need to do to progress. You have to figure that out and drive it for yourself. | ||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | g947o 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||
Are they actual career growth plans or just internal milestones for you to chase after, including promotions towards the next "level"? A real career advice should sound like "You are too good for this company. Find you future opportunities and growth elsewhere." | ||||||||||||||
| ▲ | cobolcomesback 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||
I work at Amazon and I’ve had almost the opposite experience. There are dedicated career check ins twice a year that managers are required to have (separate from pay change discussions). Each of the orgs I’ve worked in have also had their own career growth things - one of them required quarterly “how are you doing on your career goal?” questionnaires that you were supposed to review with your manager. Frankly I’ve had _too many_ managers at Amazon wanting to talk about career growth. Maybe it’s just my org, but everyone is obsessed with it. | ||||||||||||||