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paxys 2 days ago

We live in the Information Age. Things happen quicker now.

The Roman Empire took 500 years to decline.

The Soviet Union took 2 years.

The US broke centuries old alliances and upended the global order in a matter of months.

If there is a collapse of the American empire it won’t happen over centuries but in the span of a few tweets.

WarmWash 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The problem Europe has though is that it can't stand it's own. They have become so accustomed to leaning on the US, that they have grown into it.

People don't like hearing it, but Europe lives on American Tech, powered by American energy, and defended by American defense. There other lifelines being Russian energy and Chinese tech. It's a "pick your poison" situation.

Europe should be able to stand on it's own, but it's going to take much more than 4 years to do it, and Europe will be a different society than it is now after the shift.

GJim 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

You would do well to understand why that has happened since 1945 and just how the USA hugely benefited from that state of affairs.

I'm not here to argue who this has benefited the most, or if the benefit has been mutual to us all and for world peace; however Mango Mussolini has shown us the USA can never again be entirely trusted as a good faith partner. We are indeed living in changing times and there is no way of going back to the old hegemony.

EDIT: Britain finally finished paying back war loans to the USA in..... 2006! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-American_loan

vrganj 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The US is trying to sell out the EU to Russia in a misguided attempt at recruiting a new ally against China.

The obvious move for EU is to go for a Metternich-style rebalancing of powers and get China on their side.

johnnyanmac a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes. Thars why this whole kerfuffle lead to them starting the decoupling process. It will take a while, but the wheels have started turning.

vkou 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> If there is a collapse of the American empire it won’t happen over centuries but in the span of a few tweets.

Unlikely, unless those tweets are about how all the ICBMs are being launched.

Too much of the world's economy and security is tied in the US for it to collapse quickly. The divestment and roll-back of soft power will be slow.