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recursivedoubts 2 days ago

It muddies the waters by focusing on divisive issues like immigration enforcement and de-emphasizing the war, preventing what could be a unified left-and-right antiwar movement.

Plain anti-war protests could draw significant support across the political spectrum, so divisive issues are inserted as wedges. Same thing that happened in the 60's, when the anti-war movement went from a coat-and-tie affair to a laurel canyon one.

zzgo 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

If you think the No Kings movement is preventing a unified front against the war, you haven't been paying attention to the political discourse in the US since the rise of the Tea Party 15+ years ago.

recursivedoubts 2 days ago | parent [-]

man

DFHippie a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So Indivisible, which planned the protest, knew the US was going to attack Iran months in advance and plotted this protest to distract from it? What strategic masterminds! What opsec! The left always seemed so fractious and disorganized, but they were just wily, biding their time. But, why?

Seriously, I'm sure you're smart enough to know this is absurd. Just sit down and think about it a bit.

testaccount28 17 hours ago | parent [-]

would you expect dr evil to give a good "mwahahaha" and a bow?

ludicrousdispla 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

From the Pew Research poll you linked above:

> Among those who consider themselves Republicans, 79% say they approve of how Trump is handling the conflict.

71% of Republicans say the decision to use military force in Iran was correct.

88% of Democrats say the U.S. made the wrong decision to use military force in Iran.

intended 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There will be no public rapprochement between the right and the left pretty much anywhere in the world.

They are fed by entirely different media machines.

If you like, its a coordination problem where the various groups no longer have the commons of a shared reality to coordinate through.

platevoltage a day ago | parent [-]

It's not just the "media machines". These two sides have completely different moral values.

randomNumber7 a day ago | parent [-]

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williamoforange a day ago | parent [-]

Caring about others and wanting a fair, even handed and democratic government is not self-righteous you muppet. All you are doing is trying to justify your shitty ideals.

randomNumber7 a day ago | parent | next [-]

Your reply proves me right.

stackbutterflow a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You'll notice it's about how it makes the poster feel.

Complaints against the right are usually about their actions, the terrible consequences and how they hurt people.

Complaints against the left are often how it makes the complainer feel, it's a mental struggle to not admit they like the result of right wing policies and not being able to embrace a left wing position despite knowing on some level that they should.

logicchains a day ago | parent | prev [-]

>Caring about others and wanting a fair, even handed and democratic government is not self-righteous you muppet

It's self-righteous to say they care about other people but want to help those people with other people's money, not their own. Statistically speaking leftists give far less to charity.

platevoltage 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Statistically speaking, Right wingers have all of the money, even if they started off as liberals. This is silly Capitalist propaganda.

platevoltage a day ago | parent | prev [-]

There is no anti-war movement on the right. The only time there is, is when a Right-winger is trying to win an election. Once said right winger inevitably starts a war, the pom poms come out.

recursivedoubts a day ago | parent | next [-]

Tucker Carlson is perhaps the most popular commentator on the right and has a significant following and he is adamantly anti-war.

There is a legitimate cross-ideology opportunity here that the war party (which spans both american political parties) is desperate to keep from materializing.

LAC-Tech a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think you are ignorant about the nuances of the US right. It is not a monolithic block anymore than the US left is.

Prominent right-wing figures who are against this war:

- Tucker Carlson

- Thomas Massie

- Candace Owens

- Marjorie Taylor Greene

- Rand Paul

- Steve Bannon

- Nick Fuentes

- Matt Gaetz

Honourable mentions:

- Joe Rogan (I know many people on HN would consider him right wing)

- Charlie Kirk (in the months leading up to his death he said it would be a "catastrophic mistake")

Trump's approval rating has dropped -16.7 points: this represents many of his core supporters bleeding away.

randomNumber7 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

If everyone just noticed that they have to vote left the world would be a paradise /S

gzread a day ago | parent [-]

You can't vote left in the US, there are no left parties and no left politicians.