What are some examples of batteries-included languages that folk around here really feel productive in and/or love? What makes them so great, in your opinion?

(Leaving aside thoughts on language syntax, compile times, tooling etc - just interested in people's experiences with / thoughts on healthy stdlibs)

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bbkane 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Go is well known for its large and high quality std lib

	▲	philipwhiuk 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Go didn't even have versioning for dependencies for ages, so CVE reporting was a disaster. And there's plenty of libraries you'll have to pull to get a viable product.

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pyjarrett 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

These are the big ones I use, specifically because of the standard libraries:

Python (decent standard library) - It's pretty much everywhere. There's so many hidden gems in that standard library (difflib, argparse, shlex, subprocess, cmd)

C#/F# (.NET)

C# feels so productive because of how much is available in .NET Core, and F# gets to tag along and get it all for free too. With C# you can compile executables down to bundle the runtime and strip it down so your executables are in the 15 MiB range. If you have dotnet installed, you can run F# as scripts.

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troad 4 hours ago | parent [-]

These are definitely some good thoughts, thanks!

Do you worry at all about the future of F#? I've been told it's feeling more and more like a second-class citizen on .NET, but I don't have much personal experience.

	▲	pyjarrett an hour ago \| parent [-]
		I used to, but the knowledge of .NET seems mostly transferrable to C#. It's super useful to do `dotnet fsi` and then work out the appropriate .NET calls in the F# repl.